Very late, I’m sorry, but here it is, for those who like them, cleaned up scans at The Room of Requirement
For those who like them as well:
Tsubasa:
It started. This was the first time we saw CLAMP’s old “Taisetsu na Hito” in Tsubasa. Why do I feel that we are going to see this VERY often? XD
Yay, Kamui’s arm is baaaack *-* That’s what vampires do after all. He looks fit again ! He has the control again ! I’m so glad CLAMP didn’t make “KAMUI” lose for Syaoran just because he’s the main chara of this series.
Anyway, after reading pikari-san’s translations, I see that Kamui defines an “E/Bait” as “raised as food for beings who drink blood”, so I suppose the winged-girl of XXXHOLiC had her blood sucked by the wings as well.
So, Kamui wanted to give Syaoran’s blood to Subaru because, omg, Subaru gave his to Seishirou O___O *MUST know what happened in the past*
But there you go, fangirls, Subaru is in that state because he gave his blood to, possibly, save Seishirou.
Now to the big revelation of this chapter…
I used to think Dark-Syaoran was the copy (hence why he told Yuuko to bring him to “the origin” of his right eye), but no. Our little Syaoran is the copied one. More than that, there’s no need to call Dark-Syaoran as Dark-Syaoran anymore… because he’s, OMG, CCS!Syaoran.
*dies*
*revives*
So… OMG ! OMFG ! I never thought CLAMP would use CCS charas so directly ! We got some answers, but also lot of questions:
– Fei Wang got CCS!Syaoran and made a copy out of him – HOW did he get him? Did he capture him? Have they both agreed to do it? How did he travel to Fei Wang’s dimension?
– The copy would look for the feathers – So indeed he doesn’t want the feathers, on the contrary, he wants to gather them all. But WHAT will happen after that? He wants to wake up what’s under the ruins, but why Sakura has to lose her memories in order to wake that power? O.o
– The real Syaoran copied his own heart into the clone – But did he do that on purpose? He surely took off his left eye and sealed it in the copy’s right eye, but did he know that by doing so he would transfer his soul? Fei Wang said he was “trying to remove the right eye by magic”, because that would make the clone to fall apart and Fei Wang would not be able to create copies after the copy, right? So maybe Syaoran wasn’t -that- happy with the situation, he seemed very reluctant.
– Until that witch interfered. – Omg WHAT did she do? O.O
One side we have Fei Wang and the other one we have Yuuko and Clow. Before, we used to believe it was very clear who was the good and the evil, but we all know that nobody is EVIL, simply because they are, in CLAMP works. Lately, Fei Wang has been showing that he’s truly not that bad, so what does he want and why Yuuko is trying to stop him?
A funny note: I know that we -have- to know what happened in the past somehow. But think about it, don’t you think Fei Wang speaking to himself is rather weird? XD He’s not talking to anybody XDD
So big BIG question: If Dark-Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran, WHEN did this copy thing happened in CCS’s storyline?
On a last note, I so think Tsubasa is not going to last more than 21 volumes indeed.
XXXHOLiC:
GORGEOUS color pages *___________* HELL, Yuuko is sexy *drools*
This is the first page who actually FITS Young Magazine’s mood xDDDD
The 2-pages title page is also very nice, Watanuki all laid down. I think this is the first 2-pages title page without Yuuko, Watanuki really deserves one only for him ^^
Yay for XXXHOLiC selling over 5.3 million of tanks !
Neko Musume is baaaack ! *is happy* I really like her and I’m so glad she’s back ! I was worried we wouldn’t see more of her other than those few pages, and this time the arc seems to be centered on her so YAY !
I love how she behaves just like a cat XDDDD She even plays with Yuuko’s pending hair, awww ^___^
After reading chou_addicted‘s summary, I can tell that Neko Musume was feeling hot and so Yuuko gave her a hat that would cool her down. However, you know Yuuko, she does nothing for free, and so she asks Neko Musume, as a price, to bring her some water from a certain well (Neko Musume knows what water and from what well). Hummm… Apparently Yuuko doesn’t care if the water is a little dirty either. Why would be dirty, I wonder… and I also wonder if that water shall be of any use in the upcoming arcs. The water in Yuuko’s well brought Watanuki to Zashiki Warashi, so it must be just as or more special than that water.
The woman in the window looks scary… and she strangely reminds me of the woman, who was in fact a wax robot, and who was also in a window on the film The House of Wax, you know? XDDDDDDDDD
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Are you sure it’s CCS!Syaoran? It doesn’t make sense because Syaoran in the tube with Fei Wong was there for a while (enough time for clone Syaoran to grow into a teenager) so unless Syaoran was captured directly after he left CCS!Sakura and held all that time… but then why would he go after the Sakura in Clow World if he was going to return to his Sakura in Japan? So if the captured Fei Wong Syaoran was the CCS one, then the events that happened in CCS at the very end where Syaoran goes back to his Sakura would mean that everything in Tsubasa turns out peachy in the end. Or something like that. Not saying that he isn’t CCS!Syaoran, but it doesn’t seem like it would be unless CLAMP has some grand explanation up their sleeves o_o I don’t even know if what I said makes sense XD
But yeah, this chapter was crazy good.
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Oh and I really liked the touch in the xxxHOLiC title page with Watanuki, where he has one eye with his eye color and one eye with Doumeki’s ^^
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I personally think that CCS|Syaoran MIGHT have know of this and did it intentionally : for the ones who read CCS mangas, please remember what he answered CCS|Sakura when she asked him (in the volume 12 of the manga) if he REALLY had to go back to Hong Kong no matter what, CCS|Syaoran at that time, looked resolutely in front of him and said he HAD TO go NO MATTER WHAT, because he had THINGS TO DO in Hong Kong…and in the end, we absolutely don’t know what happened between his departure and his return though, like you said, seeing how CCS end is a “happy ending” then it must mean that everything went ok with Tsubasa, like Yuuko said in XXXHolic and Clow Reed said too in both CCS and TRC : everything is going to be alright ^__^ But I can’t forget the posibility Syaoran was captured too…
Anyway, if the “black Syaoran” is NOT CCS|Syaoran, then why would have Clamp took the trouble to have Fei Wong talks to himself and say that this boy is Clow Reed ‘s descendant? and the symbol too, that can be seen in his eyes and that is clearly the same as CCS|Syaoran chinese board?
~CuteSherry~
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What? CCS!Syaoran then?! O_O OMFG when I saw the raw scans I was like “here we go, they look now as CCS characters, maybe the shoujo style is more in their veins and they can’t take it off”, but now that you said that the original syaoran is from CCS!dimension… OMFG
maybe Fei Wang captured Syaoran when he back to Hong Kong? But later, we can see him at the ending of the manga very well.
Remember what Yuuko said about Clow’s final words?? Mmmm… interesting…
Kamui’s arm back again!! YEAH! CLAMP can’t do like “omg Syaoran pwns Kamui here because is the hero, people!”, but I like how Kamui looks when he talks about Subaru… on a side note, I can’t understand a lot about the blood thing @_@ Maybe Seishirou detected the same as Kamui in Syaoran and he teaches him as a “E/bait” for Subaru’s sake or something like that??
okay a LOT of questions now, thank you CLAMP we love you anyway XD
OMG xxxHolic I need to see that scans now 😀
Don’t worry about be late, we love the work you done always ^^ ♥ is so hard!!
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I’m not 100% sure anymore. I was. But after these comments, I’m confused if that is indeed CCS!Syaoran. But really, I -think- he is, I have hints pointing to that.
Thank you for appreciating the scans, yay ! ^__^
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I’m just back from reading the transalations, in shock after certain line and wondering if I had understood it right, and you got it the same way:
So, Kamui wanted to give Syaoran’s blood to Subaru because, omg, Subaru gave his to Seishirou O___O *MUST know what happened in the past* OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMOMG Clamp is going to give us a good plot here ^______________^
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I’m sure you must be quite happy ^___^
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yeeeeeeeeeeees! Blood is more important than a single ‘eye’….
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I’m sort of confused, but doesn’t it mean that Syaroan and Clow Country Sakura are related? What with King Clow being Sakura’s daddy and Syaroan (since the original is, doesn’t the clone have to be too?) being Clow’s descendant?
CLAMP fries my brain.
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well this clears up why Shaoran can’t remember anything before the alley – coz he’s the clone!
I was wondering if you could clear something up for me; do we know whether it is CCS Shaoran that is controlling Shaoran when he goes berserk or not? Coz I’m starting to think that our Shaoran is the nasty one, whose goal is to collect the feather by any means and when he can’t he goes into berserk mode – like now. CCS Shaoran put his eye and heart in Shaoran in order to… ‘calm’ him and keep him normal.
I also don’t think it was intended for Sakura to lose her memory, at the beginning Sakura was being pulled into that glowing light and was fine – feathers still intact around her until Shaoran pulled her away – so it’s entirely his fault that his memory went.
I’m so glad Kamui wasn’t defeated so easily, after all the butt kicking he did earlier it would’ve been so pathetic to go down like that!
Thanks again for the cleaned up scans
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>coz he’s the clone!
Precisely ^^
>CCS Shaoran put his eye and heart in Shaoran in order to… ‘calm’ him and keep him normal.
Ow… it’s a nice theory o.o Maybe indeed if he hadn’t put his soul, he would ALWAYS be in berseck mode O.o
>so it’s entirely his fault that his memory went.
But Fei Wang knew this was going to happen. That’s why he created the copy, to search for the feathers which, by that time, weren’t even lost yet ^^
>after all the butt kicking he did earlier it would’ve been so pathetic to go down like that!
WORD !
You’re welcome for the scans, I’m sorry for the delay ^^”
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It was a given that Kamui would recover and emerge the definite victor. He is the one who hunts or represents the majesty of God, after all. Only his twin star is his equal. Now that Sakura appears to be awakening, perhaps Subaru will be released from the dream-like sleep as well. Then there’s the matter of Subaru giving his blood to Seishirou. Perhaps this Subaru is also taken with this version of Seishirou. Perhaps it might be anothe reason. I just hope it doesn’t end tragically for this Subaru as it did for the Tokyo Babylon Subaru. The same goes for Kamui.
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Indeed Kamui represents the majesty of God XD It’s not a 14-years old boy who’s going to defeat him so easily ^^
Sakura is sleeping for 2 volumes, I think XD She didn’t even saw the World yet.. I hope she wakes up soon and of course, Subaru as well ^^
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Eh? I’m kinda confused. Did they really say that the other Syaoran was from CCS? If so, then why did he grow up so fast? And what about the CCS timeline? So many questions!!!XD I have to read the translations. And yay for Kamui’s arm! I’m also curious about Subaru and Sei-chan’s relationship.
Yuuko’s so hot!XD And so is Watanuki!!!♥ Love for Neko Musume! I like her sense of style and she’s so cute!XD Clamp always make my sentences end in question marks and exclamation points. Anyways, maybe that woman in the window is a ghost? She’s really creepy! Maybe she died in that well, that’s why the water is dirty…(Eww, my own guess disgusts me!XD) Reminds me of the movie “The Ring”. ^-^
Thanks for the scans!!!♥
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They didn’t say he is CCS!Syaoran so directly ^^ But Fei Wang said the original Syaoran is the one decendant of Clow, and that symbol that appears in the copy’s eyes is the very same we know from CCS!Syaoran, right?
Yuuko is the hottest CLAMP chara ever xDDD
>I like her sense of style and she’s so cute!XD
WORD ! She’s so on fashion XDDD
>Clamp always make my sentences end in question marks and exclamation points
Hahahaha indeed ! It’s one of the symptons for the disease xD
I thought the woman was creepy as well, maybe there’s something wrong with her face? O.o
>Maybe she died in that well, that’s why the water is dirty…
Ohhh! Nice Theory! Very The Ring-like indeed xDDD CLAMP loves The Ring, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was really something around that.
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1. I’m totally confused.
2. CLAMP makes my fangirl heart squee like mad. Awwwww… Subaru and Seishirou, Subaru and Seishirou, Subaru and Seishirou singing: I can’t live without you~, shalalala… *sings along* XD
3. I don’t know what to say. o_o That goddamn plot is too complicated for me. (Okay, one thing I can say: Somehow I knew CLAMP would give us a “real” crossover here – I just didn’t thought it’d be CCS!Syaoran!!! O_O”)
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1. SO AM I ! Like I said, it answered some questions, but it also created a lot more !
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Thank you very much, as usual! ^o^ (Aaaah, and I love reading your comments! ^^)
But…are you sure the original Syaoran is the CCS one? 😮 Because I thought he could be at first, too, but I don’t think he can be: in the first volume Sakura says that Syaoran has been in Clow for 7 years. Since he is officially around 14-15 (let’s say 15) it would mean Dark!Syaoran has been in the tube thing for 7 years, and he was around 8 years old when FWR captured him, right? And the CCS storyline happenend when Sakura and Syaoran were 10…so it doesn’t work ôO
Rah, this is so confusing! XD The chapter was awesome and I’ll just have to read it a 10th time to try and understand everything! ôO I love it when Clamp does that! 😀 They like to shock their readers! XD (And now I can’t wait for 120! XD). I really wonder how they are going to end this arc! ôO
Thank you for the scaaaaaans~~! ^o^
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Well, whether he is or isn’t, I don’t know. But I think time moves differently in different worlds, doesn’t it?
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Mh…even if time moves differently, Syaoran-in-a-bottle looks around 15 too, now, and he’s been sealed ever since he was around 7 or 8, so it still would not work…
(if he really is CCS!Syaoran, I hope we’ll be given a good explanation ^^)
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I TOTALLY see your point, because I have the same doubt. Indeed Sakura says they met 7 years go, and they indeed are around 14. That would mean Fei Wang got CCS!Syaoran when he was around 7, BEFORE the events in CCS. Then, yes, how come he’s all grown up now, 14-years old? u.u
I’ll be looking for the answer to that question, but I’m still quite sure that IS CCS!Syaoran, even if these age things don’t make any sense NOW.
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Well, I know how you’re feeling XD I’d like him to be CCS!Syaoran too, because that would be an awesome plot twist, but it just did not seem right to me and I realized it was because it does not fit in the CCS timeline at all ^^;;; So if he really is CCS Syaoran I hope we’ll be given a good explanation! ^o^
Then again, the CCS references might be there just to add to the crossovers thing, or to show us that even if some characters are different in different worlds they still have some common points…like the Clow circle we recently saw when Xin Huo sent the real Syaoran to Yuuko…ah, I don’t know :p And believe it, I LOVE it when Clamp confuses us like this! XD
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Indeed. It can’t be TOTALLY CCS Syaoran because he was asleep for seven years(the time Syaoran and Sakura knew each other). The age they are now is about 14, so he was seven when he was cloned and put to sleep. He couldn’t have been CCS Syaoran, because he went to Japan at age 10, and if he’s asleep for seven years, that can’t happen. So, this is a different Syaoran/descendant of Clow.
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Hum, yeah o.o Maybe… right now, it’s the only explanation… But that symbol in the copy’s eye… CLAMP is either trying to show us he’s INDEED CCS!Syaoran or they are just tricking us u.u
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Been a while, sorry ^-^;
I have no idea what’s going on in Tsubasa! FakeSyaoran is CCSSyaoran? I thought they were both copies of CCSSyaoran! Well, thank you CLAMP for straightening this up but now we’re even more confused @.@ Sakura please wake up and do something. I don’t want to see Syaoran or Kamui getting hurt more, I love them both!
About the CCSSyaoran: Maybe his mission was to stop Fei Wang before who-knows-what happens, he got either caught or Fei Wang reasoned with him and made him think “Hey! That wouldn’t be so bad!” and they co-operated (or Fei Wang used some weird spell on him to make him do what he wanted or blackmailed him). Anyway, stuff happened and TRCSyaoran went on his little adventure while CCSSyaoran was left comatose. Finally he woke up but having been so long in the tube messed with his mind and now he can only think “Must… get… the eye… back…” That’s my reasoning ^-^
Neko Musume! I love cats so I love her too ^-^ She’s so cute and that little “bonding” with Yuuko was nice ^-^ Yuuko’s hot! I can’t believe Watanuki doesn’t react on her any way…
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Re: Been a while, sorry ^-^;
I’m also very confused with all these different versions of Syaoran XD I want an explanation u.u
I just think that CLAMP CAN’T write “CCS!Syaoran” XDD Their way of saying this is “Syaoran who is descendant of Clow” ^^
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Re: Been a while, sorry ^-^;
Then I think it can just be ANY Syaoran from ANY world who’s descendad to ANY Clow @.@ Aargh! So confusing! Just tell us about Fay’s past so we can forget this Syaoran-thing for a while.
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CCS Syaoran(or once Shadow Syaoran) looked to be forced into the cloning. He was bound by magic, and did NOT look happy about it.
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Yes, I noticed that o.o I’m now 50/50, I think it could be CCS!Syaoran or not.
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0.o confusing indeed.
1. So is the one speaking to Sakura (telling her to wake up) is Subaru?
2. Dark-Syaoran from the scans looks fierce (wrong word >< can't think right now) enough like CCS-Syaoran ^^
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1. Apparently yes, since Kamui refers to the cocoon thing as if Subaru were inside of it ^^
2. WORD ! He’s not liking it, but he does remind me of CCS!Syaoran as well ^^
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But when you think about it, CCS!Syaoran-kun and CCS!Sakura-chan are also related because Clow Reed-san is CCS!Syaoran-kun’s ancestor and his reincarnation is CCS!Sakura-chan’s father.
But at least it’s not a blood relation then, the reincarnation probably wouldn’t be sharing the original Clow’s genes or anything?
This is too confusing. Maybe it’s just an elaborate freakazoid fantasy, who knows, maybe Tsubasa Sakura is really CCS Sakura and she’s just under some spell or in a dream or whatnot. Maybe Kurogane is really Kero-chan. I don’t know.
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As for the age of Dark-Shaolan… We know the flow of time is different in all the dimensions (Kuro or Fye, one said it in Koryo). And the dimension where Fei-Wan is could be out of time.
And it is not because he is a descendant of Clow that he is CCS!Shoalan. There are many Clow, event if they seem to share at least the ability to foresee future (TRC!Clow seemed to know things that would happen).
I guess we’ll understand better once we will know how Yuuko has interfered (I hope it will be explained next week, nothing is sure with Clamp).
And God! Sure Subaru has to show soon, but I hope we’ll see Fuma again. How can he be able to stand against Kamui while Kamui is a vampire?
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I know, but if he stayed in the tank from his 7 years until his 14, how can he be CCS!Syaoran? He was 10 in the events of CCS.
Unless Fei Wang has a machine that makes your body go back in time, like I said ^^”
And indeed there are many Clows, THAT Syaoran could be a descendant from another Clow, instead of the Clow we know from CCS.
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Well, this chapter is even more confusing, and at the end, my poor little syaoran is still in the line of death, loosing even more blood. I believe is clear now that the original is the one who was sealed in the tube by Fei w., and it´s obviuos, by the look of his face, that all this was against his will. And is also clear that nobody was controlling the syaoran-we-think-we-know when he kill that guardian dog, or now, when he rip Kamui arm- hate this kamui, same way i love x´s kamui- damm clamp´s… always manipulating us… hehe, but is sooo great.
Oh, and i´m really confused about if- we shouldn´t call him dark syaoran anymore, but, i don´t even know how to call him… well, let it be the Original-syao- is the one from ccs. is imposible by age, but … arent this a story about travelling across dimensions- time and space- clamp already show us that with the sharano and shurano story-? Is so disturbing when i remember syaoran from ccs telling her about something he has to do in hong kong… aaaaagh!! i think i´m going to explode!!
I think that original-syao put his heart into the clone, because he was sure that this way the clone also will love sakura-the sakura from tsubasa-, and somehow this could prevent something, and the fact is that copy-syaoran ruins fei plans when he took sakura from that strange simbol in the begining. fei didn´t want sakura´s feathers to be lost. Sometimes i think he is helping the tsubasa team to find them, so he can do again what he was trying to do with sakura power in the begining.
The only thing i´m afraid now is that the clone syao is going to die, because now, original syao is on his way, and he will take his eye again, so, in fei words, the copy will be fall apart. That´s so sad, i don´t want that. he his a person now, he is not a just a body… but, wait a minut…If original syao hearth´s is inside copysyao, so… he is just a body at the end? is that so? GDM!!!
I can´t believe everybody is still so worried about kamui, when syaoran is almost death right now. is so… unfair…
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uurrggg…too confusing…is it just me that WANT HIM to be the Syaoran from CCS because it would made things even more interesting from my point of view?
I read the commentS of the others about the seven years thing…but truthfully I don’t remember reading such a thing in the manga ( I have volumes 1-10 at home and the scans for 11-15+ since they don’t seem to want to release the next volumes in my country just yet…they make us wait and beg for them to release more quickly and suffer and…T_____T).
Anyway, in the next chapter :
1-Sakura wakes up and “save” her precious Syaoran and we will still have to wait a little more to know about Syaoran’s past….(nnooo!!!!)
2-CCS|Syaoran (maybe) finally arrive in this dimension (please remember Yuuko send him there few chapters before and we are still waiting for him to appear…) anf things get REALLY interesting with everyone around… Mouahahahahahahahaha!!!!
3-Seishiro appears!!!!! tachan!!! which will changes things in another way too…
~CuteSherry~
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These things are REALLY going to happen in the next chapter? O.o where did you get the info from?
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No no…those are only suppositions ^^;; I definitely don’t know what will REALLY happen in the next chapter, after all, I think that Clamp are real pro at making totally inexpected things happens at the very last moment 🙂
~CuteSherry~
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iiiiiiiihhhh
o braço do kamui voltou XD
to feliiiiz \o/
-> kamui te adoro XDDDDDD
flw yuuto-san o/
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In fact, whar worry me the most is what is written in the first page : “Disappearing Boy – Even if this body should meet its end, these feelings alone remain in a corner of the world–“…………
Arrrggg!!!! whar are Clamp plaaning to do with my Syaoran’s beautiful boddyyyy!!!!
*cries* *scream* *bang her head on the floor*
~CuteSherry~
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i’m done going O___O with tsubasa and waiting for the cleaned up versions XDD so i’m not going to talk about it .___. but i don’t get how is it CCS!shaoran…
anyways, this shaoran thing is making me think of the Chii storyline .___.
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Sorry for the late scans ! ^^”
Well, Okay, if you insist, let’s not consider Dark-Syaoran as being CCS!Syaoran anymore xDDD
I just think that CLAMP’s way of saying “CCS!Syaoran” is “The Syaoran who is a descendant of Clow”… and then the symbol we saw so many times in CCS, it uses CHINESE symbols, you know very well XDDD
BUT, maybe he’s a descendant from another Clow, right… maybe he uses the same kind of magic, right ^^
I’m 50/50 now, I don’t know what to think anymore xDDD
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Hmmm, I don’t know whether to believe or not that dark!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran… although my initial thought was that they were different. *shrugs*
But OMG SO MUCH SYAORAN CHARA DEVELOPMENT! For once! Like, that boy is such a cardboard cutout hero that it’s tiring. Seriously. But now we know that some of his single-mindedness might be because that’s all he’s been programmed to do.
I need to go back and re-read the parts where real!Syaoran appears again. Because I honestly don’t know what to think of him anymore. *si~igh*
Thanks for posting, as always~ ♥
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I’m so very confused as well @_@ I was quite sure he was CCS!Syaoran, but then after these comments, I’m not that sure anymore xD Everybody seems quite reluctant to believe he IS CCS!Syaoran.
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Wow… If it is CCS!Shaolan, then let’s hope we’ll get to see CCS!Sakura (and Kero and Yue !) helping the TRC team.
By the way, what is “Taisetsu na Hito” ?
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It all depends of WHEN, in CCS storyline, this happened. If it was before of after Syaoran met Sakura ^^
Taisetsu na Hito means “Important person” ^^
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I’m so completely confused by this whole Syaoran business. It’s making my head spin. I mean, I can’t even really focus on xxxHOLiC at the moment because I still can’t figure out Tsubasa’s plot twist.
(But hey, Subaru gave his blood to Seishirou! YOU KNOW THEY’RE MEANT FOR EACH OTHER!)
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Hahahaha so am I ! I’m completely confused @_@
>YOU KNOW THEY’RE MEANT FOR EACH OTHER!
LOL! Always XDDD OF COURSE Seishirou had something to do with Subaru’s current situation, of course u.u XDDDD
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OMG! indeed. He HAS to be CCS!Syaoran *CCS fanboy*. Yes, there are many inconsistencies with the timelines but… It would be SO cool *_*
There is also the price he had to pay to Yuuko: “relationship” (with CCS!Sakura? But they do stay together… Then maybe he was captured after coming back from Hong Kong? But then the ages wouldn’t match.. agh), “freedom” and “time” (of being locked in Fei Wong world for 7 years).
And… why was Larg’s earring glowing in the Tsubasa Yuuko scene? (Am I trying to see to much? XD)
Holic: It’s a little weird how its pace is so different from Tsubasa XD Neko Musume is so cute.
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I agree ! Ohkawa surely thought about these “inconsistencies” and there’s probably an explanation for it all.
About Yuuko’s price, I think relationship refers to Tsubasa!Syaoran.
>And… why was Larg’s earring glowing in the Tsubasa Yuuko scene? (Am I trying to see to much? XD)
Oh no, you’re not.. I’m sure that means something. Humm..
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Uhm… we actually don’t know if the fact that Subaru gave his blood to Seishiro and the fact he’s sleeping are connected.
In a certain time Subaru gave his blood to Seishiro.
We don’t quite know how much but it might be the reason Seishiro doesn’t age (and maybe Seishiro’s searching Subaru because he got an immortality gift he didn’t want, not vice versa).
Interesting how Kamui seems to know Seishiro but Seishiro didn’t seem to know Subaru (I mean… to think Subaru could play Oruha’s role…)
Then he left the world he was in and, once he got in Tokyo’s dimension (and we don’t know if he visited other dimensions or not) he found Sakura’s feather and ended up sleeping. Mind you he said that if Sakura were to stay there she could end up captured by the dream, maybe the same Fei Wang speack of so there’s the chance Subaru was captured as well (I tend to think he left himself be captured). Anyway Subaru’s been sleeping for 15 years. Kamui joined him 3 years before.
Subaru hadn’t woken up.
Kamui would like to leave that world so he thinks that giving Subaru food he might get the strenght enough to wake up.
(I tend to think Subaru’s sleep, more than due to exhaustion, is due to broken heart…).
It’s interesting how he never tried to do so with the others who’re there… so maybe he needs a soulless being? Or someone exceptionally strong?
Also Kamui said:
‘A bait that possesses this much strength… Bait is raised as food for beings who drink blood. Without a soul, They are imitations inside a human body.’
Therefore I think that the definition of bait is a soulless being that’s used as food by someone else.
Therefore i think the conenction was that the girl ended up being soulless and that her souls were used as ‘food’ more than blood being sucked away…
But maybe it’s just me…
Also… maybe Syaoran is a descendant from another Clow Reed… I mean… one Clow Reed was Tsubasa/Sakura’s father… another was the one who divided himself in two in CCS… maybe there’s a thrid…
Unless Tsubasa/Clow and CCS/Clow are the same…
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*nods nods*
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>and maybe Seishiro’s searching Subaru because he got an immortality gift he didn’t want, not vice versa
Isn’t he SEEKING for immortality?
>I mean… to think Subaru could play Oruha’s role…
Well, everybody had different faces in that game, why couldn’t Subaru have one as well? ^^
>Anyway Subaru’s been sleeping for 15 years.
Are you sure? I thought he had came WITH Kamui, who came 3 years before.
>Therefore i think the conenction was that the girl ended up being soulless and that her souls were used as ‘food’ more than blood being sucked away…
Ow yeah, it could be that as well. I don’t know if there’s any rule who says it has got to be “blood” itself ^^
About Clow Reed, however, are ALL Clows named “REED”? I don’t think people have the exact same name/surname for all their different versions. Like, Sakura is not necessarily called “Kinomoto”, so maybe Fei Wang is indeed talking about CCS!Clow because he’s the only Clow “Reed” we know of.
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Actually seishiro didn’t say…
He said he seeks for vampires and, apparently, vampires can give immortality…
Sei: Is the form you’re in now the same as your true form?
O: No.
Sei: I heard that you have the power to grant eternal life.
O: Yes.
Sei: Why don’t we stop with all these round about questions and get down to the point then, hmm? Is your real name… “Subaru”?
O: No.
Sei: ..Do you know anything about two twin vampires?
O: No. Nothing.
As far as I can remember he never said he was searching them to get immortality…
>I mean… to think Subaru could play Oruha’s role…
Well, everybody had different faces in that game, why couldn’t Subaru have one as well? ^^
Subaru? Wandering around with a female body like Oruha and winking like that? Singing in pubblic? Only if he’s a Subaru seriously different from the TB/X one… which might be, of course… but so far characters weren’t THAT different from their counterparts…
>Anyway Subaru’s been sleeping for 15 years.
Are you sure? I thought he had came WITH Kamui, who came 3 years before.
Kamui said Subaru arrived there 15 years before. The… well, let’s call them Chi no Ryu said that Kamui arrived there 3 years before, went straight to the water looking like a lost child, stopped there and said ‘I’ll protect this’.
Kamui: As soon as he arrived in this world, Subaru went to sleep under these waters… I came here to protect that sleep. [chap 118]
Yuuto: Kamui was just like the lot of you. It was about three years ago, I think, when he suddenly appeared here in Tokyo. The building we were in… was called the Goverment Office, but it had been built unknowingly on top of an underground water reservoir. We posted guards so that no one could stumble upon it accidentally. We thought he was a water thief at first. But against such strength, well.. No one could stand against him to capture him.
Kusanagi: However many guards were called, they were no competition against him.
Nataku: It would have been better not to let them die.
Yuuto: Indeed. Anyway, when the situation got pretty bad, they called us.
Kusanagi: Back then Kamui seemed to be in a kind of a chaotic state.
Fai: Chaotic?
Kusanagi: How should I explain it…
Yuuto: Like Kazuki said: Back then, Kamui seemed like a lost child. Even after he’d stopped trying to be hostile, Kamui wouldn’t tell us a thing. He only gazed at the water and said this:
Kamui: “I will… protect this here.” [chap 115]
About Clow Reed, however, are ALL Clows named “REED”? I don’t think people have the exact same name/surname for all their different versions. Like, Sakura is not necessarily called “Kinomoto”, so maybe Fei Wang is indeed talking about CCS!Clow because he’s the only Clow “Reed” we know of.
Actually I don’t even know if all the Clow alike are named Clow…
What I’m trying to say is that Syaoran might be the descendant of an alternate Clow…
Since the soul would be the same an alternate Syaoran descendant of an alternate clow would still do…
Maybe it’s just me… somehow I find hard to picture Fei Wang taking CCS/Syaoran…
However we know too little about the Clow family…
The key should be to discover what is the ‘dream’ Fei Wang talk about.
Why everyone wants to stop it?
Yuko generally doesn’t interfer much with what others do but she seems to think this time something MUST really be done… as for Clow Reed… he wasn’t a saint himself… in his last battle with sakura he threatened to let the whole population of Tomoeda sleeping forever if Sakura didn’t defeat him… okay, so maybe he was sure Sakura would win but still…
It would be interesting if the X plot is the dream they’re talking about… *just an insane idea that pop in my mind, don’t pay it attention…*
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I would think Seishirou is a mortal. Vampires are immortal, therefore, he wants immortality to be immortal, therefore, spend the rest of his immortal life with Subaru. That’s what I think anyway ^^
Seishirou didn’t know Outo was a game, he really believed (poor him) that if he killed the strongest monster, he would win immortality. When he saw that everything was a game, and everybody had a difference appearance than in Real Life, he asked Oruha if she was Subaru because she was the strongest player of the game.
>Wandering around with a female body like Oruha and winking like that? Singing in pubblic?
Sure, why not? O.o Why else would Seishirou have asked. IMO, Seishirou and Subaru have met before, Subaru gave his blood to Seishirou, right? They must have met somehow. So he knows very well how Subaru looks like, but he asked Oruha anyway because she was the strongest player.
>Kamui said Subaru arrived there 15 years before.
Did he really? With these exact words? I really don’t remember…
>As soon as he arrived in this world, Subaru went to sleep under these waters…
True. But where does it say that THAT happened 15 years before? O.o Also, Kamui says to Subaru that they must “Keep going, to the next world”. So, I would say that they came TOGETHER.
Subaru could have arrived with Kamui and he went to sleep because of the feather, I don’t know. But I really think he came WITH Kamui. How come he knows all about Seishirou then? If Subaru was sleeping ever since Kamui arrived, how did they get so close? O.o
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Kamui said Subaru arrived there 15 years before.
Did he really? With these exact words? I really don’t remember…
I fear the words aren’t exact because I’m using memory. Anyway Kamui arrived to were Subaru was sleeping alone according to Yuto and the others. Subaru was already sleeping there, likely with Sakura’s feather. And if I’m not wrong, the Kekkai on the place was also there by 15 years and, once Subaru returned the feather to Sakura it vanished…
Kamui says to Subaru that they must “Keep going, to the next world”. So, I would say that they came TOGETHER.
Well… not necessary. If both came from a different world apparently to escape to Seishiro (however that’s why Kamui want to leave. We don’t know if Subaru left because he wanted to escape… the Syaoran gang is travelling together but Fye is escaping while Kurogane wants to return back and Syaoran is searching for something. It might be Subaru left for a different reason…) and Kamui wants to move with him in some other place because he didn’t judge that world secure anymore (after all it seems he knows Seishiro can travel through worlds and he just received the visit of someone who seems to be Seishiro’s friend) he would say the same sentence.
Subaru could have arrived with Kamui and he went to sleep because of the feather, I don’t know.
I don’t think it was due to the feather… if it was now that he had returned it to sakura he would wake up, wouldn’t he?
But I really think he came WITH Kamui. How come he knows all about Seishirou then? If Subaru was sleeping ever since Kamui arrived, how did they get so close? O.o
If they’re vampire twins (whatever that means blood twins or simply vampire creates by the same master) they likely knew each other in their original world. Subaru might have left after giving his blood to Seishiro. Kamui and Seishiro went after him. Kamui simply found him first.
Maybe before finding Subaru Kamui ended up meeting with Seishiro and things didn’t go well…
Maybe Seishiro discovered a vampire gave him his blood and that had made him different from normal beings and he doesn’t like this.
Maybe Kamui told him it was Subaru who gave him his blood.
Maybe Seishiro knew Subaru but, for some reasons, had no idea what it was his name or that he was a vampire and thinks he’s dead and that’s why he doesn’t want to be immortal anymore (remember RG Veda? There’s nothing worst than living without the one you love…)
It’s just all theories untill the new Tsubasa doesn’t come out hopefully with more info…
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I would think Seishirou is a mortal. Vampires are immortal, therefore, he wants immortality to be immortal, therefore, spend the rest of his immortal life with Subaru. That’s what I think anyway ^^
Well… we can assume whatever we want since, so far, CLAMP hadn’t told us much…
It’s just Seishiro never said he searched for immortality.
And if Vampires can give immortality this means there are not vampire beings who are immortal… However vampirism (at least in Anne Rice’s books) might be transmitted drinking vampire blood after the vampire took from us a good amount of blood…
Subaru’s blood MUST have done something to him… because I find a bit weird to picture it was just an ordinary transfusion…
Seishirou didn’t know Outo was a game, he really believed (poor him) that if he killed the strongest monster, he would win immortality. When he saw that everything was a game, and everybody had a difference appearance than in Real Life, he asked Oruha if she was Subaru because she was the strongest player of the game.
Is there any proof of this? It’s true it’s said that who plays to the game for the first time usually have no idea he’s playing a game but Seishiro’s not surprised at all about seeing Syaoran and Fye still alive so he likely already knew…
Also he said he searched the strongest monster because it could garant immortality like the vampires he’s searching for apparently implying he hopes he’s the vampire he’s searching for. (Maybe it’s just me…)
Sure, why not? O.o
It would be very OOC for the original Subaru who was veeeery shy and needed to be forced to sing by Hokuto at the Karaoke Box, therefore if that’s the case Tsubasa Subaru must be very different from him.
Why else would Seishirou have asked.
Because he has no idea how Subaru’s character is?
IMO, Seishirou and Subaru have met before, Subaru gave his blood to Seishirou, right? They must have met somehow. So he knows very well how Subaru looks like, but he asked Oruha anyway because she was the strongest player.
I’ve the idea Seishiro and Subaru’s first meeting was kind of like their first meeting in TB only, this time, it’s Seishiro who had his memory erased. It would be a nice turning tables…
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I give up ^^; only time will show which one of us is right
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I agree. Let’s hope CLAMP will tell us which one very soon! ^_-
Now that I think about it, it would be funny if we both were wrong and CLAMP came up with something completly different…
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CCS!Syaoran CAN”T be the Syaoran FWR kidnapped. Remember, in xxxHOLiC Vol 2, when TRC!Syaoran and Sakura show up in Yuuko’s shop, Yuuko tells Watanuki that there is antoher Syaoran and Sakura alive and well in xxxHOLiC universe. She even mentions and shows the copy of Sakura’s wand she has. She’s clearly refering to CCS!Syaoran and Sakura, so unless CLAMP really pulls something out of their rear, neither TRC!Syaoran can be CCS!Syaoran.
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Huummm, yeah, there’s that too @_@ *confused*
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The blood sharing thing seems rather intruging and has me desiring to know more about the back story!!!
Also OMG CCS Shaoran! Also wish to know when in the CCS timline the copy thing happened
Clamp really can’t make me any tenser than I already am!!!
As to XXXholic (which I welcome back with open arms) the window woman also really creeped me out…
brrr it’s never good when you don’t see a characters face!
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I’m also so very curious for the blood sharing ! And I’m not even a Subaru/Seishirou crazy fanboy XDD But I find it intriguing as well ! Very obscure ^^
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Arigato! ^_^
those were some shocking revelations… who would of thought Dark Syaoran was CCS Syaoran? and that right eye thing still boggles my mind. Yay for Kamui!
I don’t think Fei Wong is necessarily bad, maybe just selfish. A selfish desire can end up being dangerous, which could be why Yuuko wants to stop him. And Subaru, where are you?
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>I don’t think Fei Wong is necessarily bad, maybe just selfish. A selfish desire can end up being dangerous, which could be why Yuuko wants to stop him.
You read my mind ! That’s what I think, exactly ^__^ He’s very ambicious, but not necessarily EBIL !
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Oh demonios! Oh demonios!
Este capítulo está que quema, y no sabia que era Shaoran de CCS…. *se golpea la cabeza*
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Ai caramba ! XDDDDD
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o.o well this chapter left me open mouthed…(tsubasa’s one) it was so damn awsome and confussing, XP I did scream right after reading it! and woots good thing no one was in the house XD. Mmmm we are all doubting if it’s Syaoran from CCS…many are saying that he may not be because of the age and ccs timeline and stuff…but XP that shouldn’t be a reason for CCS!Syaoran not to be Dark!Syaoran…since tsubasa is a story about dimensions, time and space, where everything can happen XDDDDDDD so…I’m even more worried about the existence of our lil syaoran (the clone T-T) than for the identity of the real syaoran XD even if…well just after seeing his magic symbol I went all like: OMFG!!! IS CCS!SYAORAN! WOAAAAAAAAAAAHJH!!!! *heartattack*…but I did that without having read the translation, so reading the chapter title makes me feel over worried T-T..WAHHHH…T-T arigato for the cleaned up scans and for sharing your thoughts with us chibi yuuto-sama
Minaya
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I post a comment yesterday about the same thing. i´m so afraid that this situation ended with the death of copy-syao. is so cruel…sigh…
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That’s what CLAMP want ! They want us all to be on this CRUEL doubt >-many are saying that he may not be because of the age and ccs timeline and stuff…but XP that shouldn’t be a reason for CCS!Syaoran not to be Dark!Syaoran…since tsubasa is a story about dimensions, time and space, where everything can happen XDDDDDDD
Hahahaha I agree with you, that’s my hope as well ! We have to take many things in consideration, like Yuuko’s prices, Time and Freedom, those might be the key to the answers ^^
And you’re welcome for the scans, dear ^__^ Thanks for the support, Minaya-san ! ^^
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Hmm, was Fai talking to Kamui .. telepathically? Anyway, I think Yuuko’s ‘intervention’ might have been… Kuro and Fai? Who knows. Part of me kind of hopes Clone!Syaoran kicks the bucket! I think, if he DOES have CCS!Syaoran’s heart, he should give it back; then we’ll only have one Syaoran, but the real Syaoran and no Clone!Syaorans.
Fai should be a vampire too.. he should kick Kamui’s butt >_< … ::sigh:: but, Clamp always makes things unpredictable, don't they? Who knows… Fai sure is showing his face a lot though, I hope something interesting happens with him soon.
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Yeah, apparently Kamui can read people’s mind…how cool is he, huh? XDDD
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CCS!Syaoran???
that doesn’t make any sense to me *re-reads the translation*… I don’t think he is CCS!Syaoran. That would totally mess with CCS time line, probably… I mean, when Syaoran was cloned he was around 6-7 years old (since Sakura and Syaoran say they met each other around 7 years ago and CLAMP have said that they are around 14 by the beginning of the series), so… That’s before CCS. Then he spent quite a long time trapped in that capsule… Until he’s like 14-15!!! He couldn’t possibly be in CCS story then =S… @_@ OMG I’m confused I don’t think he’s CCS!Syaoran O.o Unless it’s something like “he spent like 8 years in this capsule but didn’t grow a bit cus… you know, he was in the capsule, but he did grew like 8 years in the last few chapters so he could go find his clone, there you go he’s now 14-15… then he does xxxx *insert Tsubasa’s ending there* and then he un-grows all the way back to be a 7-8 years old again and forgets all about what happen in TRC so he could make sense in CCS” O___o”” man I’m confused. This is all weird…
I mean Fei Wang Reed does say that Syaoran is Clow’s descendant, but Sakura is Clow’s daughter, and Fei Wang Reed is Clow’s descendant himself (unless I misread one chapter… I think it was back there in the Sharano/Shurano arc)… I think there have to be at least 2 Clows mixed up in this story ^_^U…
*sigh* I hope they do explain all these. This question answered gave us 1000 new questions… to which we might never know the answer T___T… OMG this is just like LOST XP.
PS: Now that I think about it… I think I might be underestimating Fujitaka’s part here… TRC!Fujitaka, of course… Mmm… In CCS he was Clow (well kinda ^_^U)… O.o” *gets more confused*.
PPS: Sorry about the HUGE comment u_u *blushes*
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I know, I know u.u I know all these questions and possible plot-holes… but STILL, I think Ohkawa also thought of it all and she’ll clarify everything, I hope ^^
I think it’s possible that he is CCS!Syaoran, but it’s just as possible that he isn’t. I have theories pointing to both directions, but I’m more inclined for him being indeed CCS!Syaoran, even with all the possible plotholes ^^”
>and then he un-grows all the way back to be a 7-8 years old again and forgets all about what happen in TRC so he could make sense in CCS” O___o”” man I’m confused. This is all weird…
Hahahaha indeed that is what I thought as well… It doesn’t sound very possible, right? We’ll see ^^”
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I’m also very very confused @_@ I think it could be CCS!Syaoran (even if the ages don’t match) or not…
And you’re welcome, dear, always ^__^
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WOW!
Well all I can say is wow! Ok so maybe Syaoran is CCS Syaoran and here’s why I think he is. CCS arc happens and they both grow up la la la. Meanwhile Clow and Yuuko before they existed had planned for what is going on right now, knowing that all these souls are tied together and that everything is related and nothing is coincidental, merely Hizusen. In Chapter 109 or 110 Yuuko was reflecting back on parts of everything and she ends it with something like even if this is a second time. Like CCS Syaoran was captured at age 14-15 from his world by FWR and then cloned But somehow FWR knows how to send people back in in space and timeand thus younger Syaoran clone existed while the older Syaoran was imprisoned. As the clone approached the right age the imprisonment weakened and since they were connected by copied souls, even more was going on. Basically his whole visit with Yuuko was kind of like here’s what’s happening, you know you have a clone what your clone sacrificed was this and here you go. As far as CCS Sakura…? I dunno I hope she’s ok or alive or something it would really suck to find out what we saw at the beginning of the series was in fact the first time around at this and ultimately where it will all end up….oh CLAMP, why do you tease me so!
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Re: WOW!
Something’s bugging me… Yuuko and Clow had planned what would happen with TRC!Shaolan and TRC!Sakura, but now I remember Clow had not been able to foresee Sakura would love Shaolan in CCS. He thought she would always love Yukito. If Clow knew about other dimensions, and the fact that souls are the same whatever the dimension, it seems a bit illogical.
Maybe Clamp didn’t see this, but surely they have prepared other incredible revelations, so in the end everything will become clear. They know how to manipulate us.
One thing’s sure : Clow knows how to be mysterious, even after his death. (Eh, could Eriol know about FWR? OK, I stop talking…)
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After read Tsubasa’s chapter, immediately I thought “Good things aren’t what seem! So who is the good and the bad right now?
Wow! this chapter remembered me some kind of circumstance like RG Veda or MKR. Yay for CLAMP!
BTW xxxHOLiC color pages, on the first one Yuuko looks so gorgeous and then on the last color page we see a mad Watanuki operating some kind of watering-can, so fun XD
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Waa~ did u see the cover for volume 15? Damn it, it’s not Kamui. >< It's Kendappaou! She's nice but…. KAMUI~! *whines* ;_;
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After reading all till here, i´m even more confused. so many theorys… but, still, there are some things very clears to me: The Syaoran in the tube was the original syao, but it dosnt mean its the one from ccs. but it could be, because in tsubasa everything is possible traveling across time and space, and Clamp loves to relate one story to another, so, they can use those misterious reasons that syaoran said in ccs when he went back to hong kong. Another fact is that Fei sealed Syaoran against he´s will, but syao used his magic powers to put his soul into the clone, with the hope these way he could avoid Fei plans. If Syaoran recover his right eye from clone-syaoran, clone-syaoran is going to die. Also is clear now that clone-syao wasnt controlled when he fight without mercy. Another important thing is that he is not the same as the original syaoran but he has feelings now, he is no longer a soulless body, that´s why i don´t whant him to die- poor little my!- It seems that subaru and kamui are vampires, and subaru give his blood to seishiro, so seishiro is also a vampire- that´s why syaoran say that he hadnt aged when they met again in outo. Seishiro knows subaru´s face, but he asks oruha about her real appereance, because in fact she was still using her appereance in the outo game- remember she say that these wasnt her real form- And the last fact is that subaru was sleeping when kamui arrives, but it only could mean that they arrive at the same place but in diferent time, like when fye and kurogane arrived at Yasha and Ashura country some time before sakura and syaoran, so Subaru and kamui could had been traveling together, they only get separated in this destroyed tokyo.
aaah, what a mess.. i want the next chapter already!
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i think you’ve all got it twisted.
syao-in-a-bottle is the original syaoran.. because he (syao-in-a-bottle, with fei wang’s clothes) was the one trying to seal the clone’s eye off. syao-in-a-bottle was also the one trying to resist the seals, as well.
i’m 99% that this “original” syaoran is the ccs!syaoran, since time flows differently through dimensions. and as other people have said, this could’ve been the “business” that syaoran meant to go to hong kong for – but seeing the agony he was going through in this chapitre, i don’t think he knew about it.
so anyways, trc!syaoran – the one that fujitaka found – is the clone, and is the one that was meant to retrieve the feathers for fei wang.
i wouldn’t be surprised if tsubasa came to a happy ending, since the ccs manga ended in a happy middle-schooler life for S&S there.
on another note.. i think what yuko did to “interfere” was bring sakura’s love to the clone syaoran. the picture of kid!S&S kind of gave it away – it has to do something with that OTP, i can almost smell it. since he was merely a clone, i don’t think trc!syaoran had a soul to be connected to throughout the dimensions, except for his counterpart. fei wang predicted syaoran’s meeting with the princess, but only to an extent that he would just get all the feathers from her. what i think yuko did, was let this syaoran fall in love with her and care about her enough to break her free of the wing-releasing spell (as in, that part where sakura was being sucked into the seal of the wings to extract her feathers).
just my two cents 🙂
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