Seishirou has both eyes! Why does he have both eyes? I remember someone left a comment on my previous report about that, but in fact, we couldn’t actually see whether he had both eyes or not on the previous chapter, but congratulations to you for seeing this through XD
Can anyone please refresh my mind, was he already blind when he met Syaoran for the first time in Clow?
The following excerpts were taken from ‘s translations in here.
I think it’s a little more complicated than that
This immediately made me believe that Fuuma and Seishirou are not blood related, and it makes perfect sense to me. I always thought it was a little too random. But we’ll see.
Vampire Fye got his nails off! Sooner than I expected (actually, I never thought it would happen xD). Seishirou came up to Fye but he has no interest in hurting him, all he wants to know is where he can find Subaru. Amazing how he can tell it’s Kamui’s blood running in Fye’s veins.
Then we get a little bit o’ comedy after 954754 chapters, and a lot of smiles from Fuuma and Seishirou. How gentle they are xD
Thanks Syaoran, for holding Seishirou before he runs off again.
Bloody hell, Seishirou knows about the clone and what’s more, he knows real Syaoran’s father!
….You’re exactly like your father, in that respect. Although I suppose that’s to be expected, if the two of you are truly father and son.
My god, what does he mean by that? *goes nut* I think Seishirou landed on Hogwarts in one of his travels and met Snape xD Jokes aside, that’s the second time Syaoran’s father is mentioned, and this time is much more important. Seishirou KNOWS him, goddamnit!
Who could he be? A character we already know, I assume, since most of Tsubasa’s story has been told. Who fits the profile of Syaoran’s father? I know what you’re thinking xD But could he really be? We know Syaoran is related to Clow, can we assume his father is as well? Or does the “Clow blood” comes from his mother?
Watanuki? It’s a possibility, surely. But Yuuko said Watanuki and Syaoran are the “same”, and that is not a thing to say to a father and son xD I’m not the same as my father, nobody is. But it would explain why Watanuki has to exist no matter what (otherwise Syaoran would never been born XDDDDDDDD) Not to mention that would mean Watanuki had a son with a woman and that would enrage a huge lot of fangirls.
Fei Wang? That would be… cool XD Seishirou said Syaoran is like his father right after he said Syaoran was looking through the other himself. Isn’t that what Fei Wang does? XD Watch other people’s life in his cozy puffed chair, with a glass of wine and hot girls around him? xD maybe one of them is Syaoran’s mother, poor boy Fei Wang is related to Clow. Would he do what he did to his own son? Wearing an monocle in one of his eyes (meaning his right eye’s vision is weaker), in the first sketches of Fei Wang, he had the Ying-Yang symbol in his chest, Syaoran’s magic is based on Ying-Yang.
Just thoughts ^________________^ But it would be a hell of a plot twist.
The thing is, Kurogane realized something, and I hope he’ll reveal his thoughts later.
Seishirou and Syaoran will now fight (Seishirou’s got style!). It shall be a great fight. I don’t think Syaoran will give up, but it’s hard to believe he will defeat Seishirou. So I think Seishirou will play with him for a while and then take off.
Wouldn’t it be great if while they were fighting Kamui and Subaru suddenly appear? XD Seishirou would be forever thankful to Syaoran (and then he could give him the feather ^_~).
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Olá, Chibiyuuto!
OMG, so many theories!!!
I wonder if we really are close to the end with so many doubts!!
And Seishirou in action!!! That sounds so cool!!
Thanks for the comments, Chibiyuuto!!
:::looks around for some scans::
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We are less than 7 volumes away from the end, trust me xDDD *don’t listen to him*
You can find scans on but you have to friend her first ^^
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i think you can also find the scans at clamp_now ^^
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Oh yeah, there’s the MangaHelpers link. But they also took the scans from Alice xD
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So there you go, you can download them here as well: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20350
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Hehe, I already looked on clamp_now, XD thank you very much!!!
😀
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Seishirou looks like he has both eyes, but one is actually a magical device for traveling dimensions so he can’t see (well) out of it, neh? Its been that way since before he met c!Syaoran… o.o
HAHAHAHA FEIWANG Syaoran’s father…. It makes me imagine AU fanfic where FWR is an abusive asshole father and poor Syaoran is his son XD;;;
Watanuki is perhaps a good idea though. But… ‘bond closer than anyone’ is not a term I’d use for father-son XD; And there is also mystery about Watanuki’s parents too. That would just be crazy XD
EVERYTHING IS CRAZY, I’m just sitting back and watching instead of trying to guess what happens XD
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But it was blind, I mean, we couldn’t see his iris at all.
>HAHAHAHA FEIWANG Syaoran’s father
HAHAHA I know, it’s completely crazy, but I’m starting to think it’s not THAT crazy XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>But… ‘bond closer than anyone’ is not a term I’d use for father-son XD;
I agree xD And if I remember correctly, Yuuko said Watanuki and Syaoran were the “same”. That’s even worse xD
It’s just because well, out of all characters, the only ones we know that are blood-related to Clow are Fei Wang, Clow himself and, possibly but not confirmed, Watanuki.
> I’m just sitting back and watching instead of trying to guess what happens XD
You’ve made the wisest choice xD I sound like a complete fool coming up with these theories xD
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Hmmm true, I guess before they had his magic eye more ‘blank’ looking @_@ *will have to go back and reread those old chapters*
You’ve made the wisest choice xD I sound like a complete fool coming up with these theories xD
Hahaha, no XD I must admit, when you guess *correctly* it is especially fun later XD Then you get to feel smart, hahahaha ♥
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>Hahaha, no XD I must admit, when you guess *correctly* it is especially fun later XD Then you get to feel smart, hahahaha ♥
Are you talking generally or are you talking about me in particular? XDDDDD
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BOTH. Hahaha XD ~~~~♥
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Hahahah I have to agree with you, I feel stupidly happy when my guesses were right XD
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he is blind of one eye his eye was blank and now he has a seal in it maybe the seal to travel for dimensions in fact he use the magic circle of Yuuko!!
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my quick comment goes here:
was he already blind when he met Syaoran for the first time in Clow?
Yes he was ^^
a little bit o’ comedy after 954754 chapters
yea, it’s so nice to see them fooling around again 😀
How gentle they are xD
the more gentle they seem, the more dangerous they are XDD
I think Seishirou landed on Hogwarts in one of his travels and met Snape xD
What XDDD but this indeed sounds like something people would say to Harry Potter himself XDDD
We know Syaoran is related to Clow, can we assume his father is as well?
if so, Syaoran/Sakura will be something of a incest? i don’t really think so 😛
that would enrage a huge lot of fangirls.
yet Kamui’s mum comes to my mind…she got married but it wasn’t her true love 😛
maybe one of them is Syaoran’s mother, poor boy
XDDDD
Wouldn’t it be great if while they were fighting Kamui and Subaru suddenly appear? XD Seishirou would be forever thankful to Syaoran
No, I will be forever thankful to Syaoran XDDD
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>Yes he was ^^
Thanks! But damnit, if he wasn’t, I could suppose the blind eye was only his “game look” in Outo. But I guess he was really blind…. I wonder why he got his eye back O.o
>the more gentle they seem, the more dangerous they are XDD
HAHAHAHA it’s the danger-meter xD You’re totally right.
>but this indeed sounds like something people would say to Harry Potter himself XDDD
Yeaw xD
>if so, Syaoran/Sakura will be something of a incest? i don’t really think so 😛
I’m not saying Clow himself is his father. I was just asking if his Clow blood comes from his father or his mother.
>yet Kamui’s mum comes to my mind…she got married but it wasn’t her true love 😛
Hahaha, you’re right. The theory is up again xD
>No, I will be forever thankful to Syaoran XDDD
No, we we would be forever thankful to Syaoran XDDDD
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the danger-meter XDDD what a wonderful word XD
I was just asking if his Clow blood comes from his father or his mother.
i see XP well it’s hard to guess…can it be both? XD
we would be forever thankful to Syaoran XDDDD
yea we shall be, if only it happens…XD
and Syaoran will be forever thankful to Sei-chan since he give him back the feather XDDDD
from your other comment, Maybe Syaoran hatched from it *headwalls*
you and your crack non-theories, chibiyuuto-kun XDD i bursted into laughter when i read this XDDDDD
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>the danger-meter XDDD what a wonderful word XD
Thanks, I liked it as well XDDDDDD
>can it be both? XD
It could be both, definitely, but it could also be only one =\
>you and your crack non-theories, chibiyuuto-kun XDD i bursted into laughter when i read this XDDDDD
I feel so embarassed XDD I can’t believe I said such a ridiculous thing XDDDDD
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How long has Fei Wang been sitting in that chair for anyway? Surely his bum’s getting numb by now XD
I loved this chapter! The Seishirou/Fuuma interaction was ♥ and I love Tomoyo and Kendappa’s little sibling fight! Poor Kurogane!
An interesting theory indeed, but I doubt CLAMP’s gonna let it slip just yet XD
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>How long has Fei Wang been sitting in that chair for anyway? Surely his bum’s getting numb by now XD
Definitely XD Unless time goes by really really slow in his World xD Something like each hour corresponds to 5 months xDDDD
>and I love Tomoyo and Kendappa’s little sibling fight!
I was quite surprised to see it! XD I didn’t expect Tomoyo to say such a thing for her sister xDDDD Thinking better, it’s quite rare to see “sisters” in CLAMP’s works.
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this was an awesome chapter and the comic relief was weird, so funny how u said maybe sei-chan popped into hogwarts lol, speaking of that, hehe kinda interesting about dumbledore being gay -.- but my sister and i already pre-slashed him and grindelwald lol but it’s great to be confirmed
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I was surprised about Dumbledore at first, but then I thought “It makes sense…” xD
I knew there was something more than friendship as well between him and Grindelwald.
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haham, good point on Watanuki ;D but… WITH A WOMAN? XD Hell no! Doumeki will be crushed…. or…. Yuuko made Watanuki pregnant with Doumeki! HA! XD
I’m grateful for the comedy part in this chap *_*
My god, what does he mean by that? *goes nut* I think Seishirou landed on Hogwarts in one of his travels and met Snape xD
hahahahaha, say no more, plz XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
The thing is, Kurogane realized something, and I hope he’ll reveal his thoughts later.
I hope that too, luckily, CLAMP never leaves thing unexplained (forever I mean XD) ^___^
Seishirou would be forever thankful to Syaoran (and then he could give him the feather ^_~).
Too predictable –> that won’t happen XD But I can imagine appearence of the twins.
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>Yuuko made Watanuki pregnant with Doumeki! HA! XD
Hahahaha remember the egg? XDDDDDDDDD Maybe Syaoran hatched from it *headwalls*
>I hope that too, luckily, CLAMP never leaves thing unexplained (forever I mean XD) ^___^
Kurogane is not the type that keeps quiet for too long… he’ll spit it out to Fye sooner or later or worse, he’ll corner Syaoran himself.
>Too predictable –> that won’t happen XD But I can imagine appearence of the twins.
Hahaha I was kidding on the feather part xD
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nice to read your comments as always chibi yuuto-san!! x3
I really liked this chapter and really Syaoran’s father
has to have one nice role in the manga if they continued
to mention him and what’s more through seishirou!
and I know how crazy it sounds that fei wang could
be syaoran’s father but when seishirou said that of watching through other…it sounded like a possibility but god it would make
such a mess if he were his father…and I can’t think of clow
being his father…and watanuki would be a perfect guess except for the
“they’re the same” stuff 9__9 unless clamp has a totally different
perception of the father and son relationship xD
I hope we find out in some of the next volumes to come! xDDDDD
cuz I’m sure it won’t be too soon x3, take care!
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I don’t know if Seishirou meant Syaoran is like his father because he watches everything from somewhere else or if it’s because Syaoran’s brave attitude. We have to wait and see.
>unless clamp has a totally different perception of the father and son relationship xD
Only Ohkawa knows xD
Nice to have your comments as well, anonymous-san. Please leave your name next time so I can thank you properly ^_^
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Yo, Chibi-Yuuto! ^^ Genki desu ka! I have to say that this weeks chapter was pretty good and interesting. It was cute the smiling brotherly talk between Fuuma and Seishirou. What I’m curious to know like you is why Seishirou has two eyes. Didn’t he paid a price for one of his eyes!? @__@
Let’s not forget for the fangirls that Fai had a little “vampire fight” with Seishirou as he showed the long vampire nails. Sore wa motto kakkoi!! ^o^
Also, I laughed so very hard when Fuuma and Tomoyo-hime were saying that Seishirou and Kendappa are such troubling siblings. Especially the look of Kendappa’s face!! Tomoyo-hime can sure be such a teaser! XDDD
>Thanks Syaoran, for holding Seishirou before he runs off again.
Ne!! Kampai to the determined young hero! Good boy, Syaoran!! *pats him hard*
>Bloody hell, Seishirou knows about the clone and what’s more, he knows real Syaoran’s father!
Holy Mokona, can someone please tell us who the heck is his father once and for all!? MOU!! >.The thing is, Kurogane realized something, and I hope he’ll reveal his thoughts later.
Are you referring to the part where he looked at Syaoran before they were preparing to square off? Or does he know the outcome of the battle and who will win…
And speaking of squaring off… those two sure know how to make such a dramatic ready fighting poses. However, I definitely have to agree with you that Seishirou did it with more style than Syaoran did. XDDD
I don’t know if I’ll put my money on Syaoran this time… *sighs* Win or lose, I hope he kick ass!! ^o^
Anyway, thanks a lot for such a very interesting chapter commentary report. You amaze me today with all those theories about the mystery of Syaoran’s father. Hontou arigatou gozaimasu. *glomps*
Ki o tsukete, Chibi-Yuuto!
Nyanko-san ^__^
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>Didn’t he paid a price for one of his eyes!? @__@
Yeah, it was the price he paid to gain the power to cross dimensions, if I’m not mistaken.
>Tomoyo-hime can sure be such a teaser! XDDD
“Ohohoho~”
>can someone please tell us who the heck is his father once and for all!? MOU!! >.Are you referring to the part where he looked at Syaoran before they were preparing to square off?
Right after Fye said Syaoran is not related to Fujitaka by blood.
Thanks for your comment, Moko-chan, and don’t believe my theories, they make no sense XD
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>don’t believe my theories, they make no sense XD
Demo ne, those are theories that may have the smallest of clues when it comes to knowing the answer in the end. Besides, I really find them rather amusing! Even if they don’t have any sense, ne! ^.~
Ne ne, this mystery of knowing who is the real Syaoran’s father is reminding me of the first season of NBC’s “Heroes” when they were teasing the watchers who is the cheerleader’s true father. XDDD
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Wonderful chapter ^__^
Then we get a little bit o’ comedy after 954754 chapters, and a lot of smiles from Fuuma and Seishirou. How gentle they are xD
Indeed after so much angst a little fun is what we need ^__^… and you know, seeing Seishirou and Fuuma smile like that makes me remember the ice cream’s scene in X , they are indeed dangerous even when they smile XD
I already thought about Watanuki being Syaoran’s father, that would be intersting… like Syaoran coming from the future in order to save his father and his family…
Thanks Syaoran, for holding Seishirou before he runs off again.
YES! THANKS Syaoran… I want more stylish Seishirou XD
(Sorry for my bad english ^^”””)
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It reminded me of the ice-cream scene as well!! XD I think it was a homage xD
>they are indeed dangerous even when they smile XD
Danger-meter = high. xD
>I already thought about Watanuki being Syaoran’s father, that would be intersting… like Syaoran coming from the future in order to save his father and his family…
Yeah, something like that ^__^ But do you really think Watanuki would have a son with a woman? XD I mean, I see no problems with it but the fangirls sure do xD In other, sincere words, Watanuki is supposed to be gay xD
(don’t worry about your english X3 mine sucks too xD)
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Who is Sarons father anywy???????
Well, Mr chibbiyuto or what ever…
why dont we think of Fumma being the father Of Syaoran(i.e the real one)
so what do you guess!!! ^_~
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Hi all! I’m usually a lurker, but I just have to comment this time.
First, I think it’s a pretty good assumption that the real Syaoran is the one from Card Captor Sakura (magic circle, sword, type of magic, etc). If that is the case, well, it depends on whether you go more by the anime or manga. We met Syaoran’s mom in the first movie, but no clue as to whether she is the one related to Clow or not. She has some pretty strong magic, though.
As for Syaoran and Sakura, Syaoran is a descendant of Clow Reed, probably several generations back, though. According to the manga, Eriol is half the reincarnation of Clow Reed, the one who got the magic and memories. Sakura’s Dad, Fujitaka Kinomoto, is the other half. So in a weird way, Sakura is closer in blood to Clow Reed than Syaoran.
Anyways, the fight should be good:)
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I actually love this chapter and can’t wait for the next one to come.
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Gah, why does it matter who the heck Syaoran’s father is or not?!? Someone just go ask Yuuko, she’ll know but you might want to bring along some nice wine to pay for it…
But this is interesting, the fights in Tsubasa always last mulitple chapters, so maybe the reason they are waiting in Holic is for the fight to be finshed here and Yuuko can talk to them? That would make sense, especially if she told them who Syaoran’s father is…
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well about the eye he have a white eye and now we see the seal in the eye with the magic circule of YUUKO in it is not an iris.
About R Xiao and his blood and FWR and his blood
i’m just thinking maybe FWR is an ilegitime child of Clow Reed and the sorcerer of the first movie of CCS what do you Think?
About Xiao we have a very few alternatives
or he is Li Xiao lang, or his son, or the son of one of his sisters, i can’t believe FWR inprision his only son in a jar and make a clony of him NO!!, but could be his uncle if FWR had a sister(Twin sister???)
Well there is not more posibilities at least Clow Reed have more ilegimite childs but i don’t belive it!!
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Thanks for your comments as always, it’s so pleasant to read them!^__^
Oh this chapter was more interesting than I thought it would be!
Comedy is great, we all needed al bit of it after such long absence!XD
Fuuma’s comment about being brother of Seishiro is intriguing… I hope they’ll give us some more hints!
Syaoran’s father… now, this gives me worst creeps than Watanuki’s parents matter!XD Seishiro knows him and his way of saying it gave me the idea that that father met the clone too!
if the two of you are truly father and son.
Maybe I’m wrong, it’s just an impression! ^^
My guesses about that father are two… ne is the same as yours, and yes, FeiWang is the kind of person that would do such things to his own son… And think of it… Xing Huo could be the mother! That’s why she helped him even if it would mean her death…
The other guess is… Clow! Because whenever he appears in someone’s memory and talk about/to Syaoran has this kind of strange sad and hopefull expression… and there was that scene, when Sakura was looking sadly to the ruins because a person special to her was there, Clow said that he have someone special far away too… Maybe his son? It would be twisting, they hed been talking about Syaoran, one the clone and the other the real one! Oh btw, I always suspected that Sakura (and so Touya too?) isn’t really Clow’s daughter…
AAAHH my head hurts! XD
Bah, knowing Clamp, we can talk about Syaoran’s father for ages and they’ll come up wit something unexpected! XD
I think that Kurogane is just getting nervous because he wants to be back in action… Fay is fighting, Syaoran is fighting and he can’t because he just got back an arm and has no weapon yet! Don’t forget that he probably considers Seishiro his opponent, they never finished their challenge!
But we discovered that Kurogane understand a lot of things, so maybe he really realized something……
Sorry if I bothered you with all those babblings!^///^
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At this point I’m guessing Syaoran’s dad is Fei Wang. I’m really hoping it’s not that cliche. It’s so very star wars.
We never did see Syaoran’s father in CCS. Then again, CCS certainly doesn’t equal Tsubasa. Bloodlines appear to not carry over well from one CLAMP work to the next. (Which is stupid/not science/genetics whatever…. Sakura/Clow Kamui/Subaru wtf… blargh.)
I did enjoy this chapter so much more than the last 17.
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Hello, how are you? ^^/
I have been around for a while, coming after the Clamp-ness, but this is the first time commenting!!
Apparently 170 is mostly about parenthood and family ties! ^_^;0 First about Seishirou and Fuuma, clearly they’re not brothers in the “regular” way. Apart from the possibility of being brothers due to one of them being adopted or by marriage of their parents, I don’t think Tsubasa would go so in depth like that. I think that it’s way more plausible for them to be “brothers” for belonging in a same “team” (Dragons of Earth and Heaven, for example), or for having beliefs in the same thing.
On to the most talked about parenthood, Syaoran’s! Starting from who I think is NOT his father: Fei Wang and Clow. The first one because I don’t think he’d dispense to his own son (in spite of being as much cruel as he is) the treatment he gave R!Syaoran, locking up in a tube, removing the eye and making a clone out of him!
And Clow… well, for the first time I thought today, I really don’t think how R!Syaoran (and even CCS!Syaoran, if they’re not the same) or anyone could be truly descendant of him. Because you see, up to what we know, CCS/xxxHOLiC!Clow died offspring-less (not counting guardians and talking majuus! :P), and even if he had a brother/sister out there, who came eventually to be the grandparent/parent of CCS!Syaoran, Syaoran really wouldn’t be properly descendant of Clow… not directly, anyway!
Now about Watanuki… at first I thought Wata wasn’t really a person, but more of a “living” dream, or even a sort of ayakashi, but now I think it gets more clear that he exists (or existed at some point, and now is being kept “alive” by some magic/device that keeps going on until the unknown moment of doom :P). And I believe that he is important because he must be, indeed, R!Syaoran’s father.
You mentioned the comment Syaoran made that they’re the same, and at first it dosn’t make much sense, but reading it came to my mind something I heard in a mass once, that somewhere in the Bible Jesus claims him and God (the Father) are one/the same. At the same time I think Clamp wouldn’t go to the Bible for inspiration (xD), but it shares some resemblance, and hey, IT’S CLAMP!! We have reached a level where EVERYTHING is possible!! 😛
I know that for Wata to be a dad, there would be a mom, and this would cause a HUGE commotion (I myself would be distraughted!!), but I remember that at some point Clamp answered a question about DouWata (I think it was in one of the radio shows), and they said they would NOT be a pairing.
As for the mom, Himawari would be way to obvious, and Kohane is a bit too young (though, again, it’s Clamp!! they have Prof. Terada/Rika and Eriol/Prof. Mizuki!! in front of them, the age gap between Wata and Kohane is nothing! :P), and then I thought: Zashiki Warashi! Because up to the point, it hasn’t been show *exactly* why she has been introduced in the story, apart for worrying/fighting/thinking about Wata. And after Wata recovered of the fall and she and Ame Warashi paid him a visit, Ame said Zashiki was changing for him/because of him, and we’re yet to see her full “evolution”!
And omg, what a huge comment!!! ^_^; I’m sorry!
And last, Can anyone please refresh my mind, was he already blind when he met Syaoran for the first time in Clow? Yes! I remember he was already blind because he taught Clone!Syaoran, who was blind of one eye just like him, fighting techniques that didn’t require the vision of both eyes!
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> The thing is, Kurogane realized something, and I hope he’ll reveal his thoughts later.
He realized that something after Fay said, “….No. So far as we know, Syaoran-kun and Fujitaka-san aren’t related by blood.”
Has Syaoran ever mentioned Fujitaka’s name ever before? I didn’t think so… It’s already a stretch to think if he mentioned he was adopted, but he might have said that. (that’s the problem with this kind of manga — every chapter, you have to re-read the entire thing!)
Why does Fay know so much? That’s what stuck out to me. (that hasn’t been mentioned.)
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^____^ finally some comedy~
And Sei-chan was already blind when he first met Shao *nods*
*snort* We’ll see who’s his father….poor boy if it’s FRW…but as father he should have at least the same amount of magic power as Shao…so probably not, ne? Dunno…
Hm…I wonder how Fay knows the name of Shao’s “father” Fujitaka? He didn’t say that ever, did he? Maybe that’s what Kuro realized? *shrugs*
&hearts
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Five hundred yen says his father is Clow. Maybe probably. That would be awesome. THank god Fuuma and Seishirou aren:t actualy blood relatives, that would just be way too creepy (incidentally, it:s so odd to see all of htese characters smiling after reading X. also, Seishiriou:s current cassock outfit is amusing). Damn good chapter, all in all, and I hope Shaoran can kick Seishirou:s butt next time. And hooray for more from Amaterasu, she is awesome.
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