Scans and translations at MangaHelpers.
LOL! Loved the faces of Fuu, Umi and Hikaru! XD
So the theory confirms itself! The clones are the parents =D It feels so great to have guessed it right for once! But as I mentioned the first time I brought this theory up, I didn’t come up with it at all, all credits should be given to jlarinda. I just read it and though “this is it!” =D
I think the adult version of Syaoran is convincing enough to me, hell does he look handsome? I can’t say the same for Sakura. I don’t know, I wasn’t convinced enough. But it’s okay, not something that will bug me for the rest of my life. LOL
This chapter is so adorable. Baby Syaoran(‘s tiny HAND) is adorable… is he feeding on Sakura? Aww. I also love the exchange of kindness between Syaoran and Sakura, it really reminded me of the other CLAMP married couples.
Time passes some more and Sakura looks worried when Jr. comes talk to her. My guess here is that she had just seen the “dream” that Papa!Syaoran told Jr. when the former sent the latter to Yuuko. Or maybe she had already seen it since Jr. tells her to rest if she’s still not feeling well. Still? What is been happening to her?
It seems like Papa!Syaoran travels for business a lot, considering Jr. said he got back from his work “yesterday”. I wonder what Papa!Syaoran works with…
Also worth mentioning that Sakura is wearing the same clothes as of when she met CCS!Sakura in the dream. I think only CCS!Sakura’s comforting words will make mama!Sakura feel better. Not sure if the meeting already happened or will happen after this scene. I think it didn’t happen yet otherwise mama!Sakura would have CCS!Sakura’s staff and would be feeling better?
Another 16 pages chapter. So far we have 64 pages, which gives around 115 pages left for volume 28, but CLAMP could always pull a RG Veda and make the final volume bigger than the previous ones xD
Next chapter only on July 8.
By the way guys, the official website of Tsubasa and XXXHOLiC OAD updated with comments from the staff and cast of XXXHOLiC Shunmuki Part 2 during the after-recording sessions. The OAD will be released next week, on June 23, along with XXXHOLiC #15.
92 thoughts on “TRC 223 !”
Leave a comment
This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Chibi Yuuto's CHRoNiCLEs 
TY for the credits 8D
is he feeding on Sakura?
Don’t think so, her clothes look closed. I think he’s just grabbing onto her. W-which is also stupidly adorable.
My guess here is that she had just seen the “dream” that Papa!Syaoran told Jr. when the former sent the latter to Yuuko
Mine is what you said below, that she’s either just met CCS!Sakura, or that she’s remembering she did; ’cause of the way she’s grabbing that sakura petal. A-and she’s wearing the same clothes, and we know that Syaoran will be going to meet Yuuko really soon.
LikeLike
You’re welcome! You’re a genius for figuring it out (I already said that over and over xD)
I think he’s just grabbing onto her. W-which is also stupidly adorable.
Indeed! But it’s not like CLAMP would show Sakura’s breasts, I just thought it was a censored way of showing it XDDD
Mine is what you said below, that she’s either just met CCS!Sakura, or that she’s remembering she did; ’cause of the way she’s grabbing that sakura petal. A-and she’s wearing the same clothes, and we know that Syaoran will be going to meet Yuuko really soon.
It could be. But in the battle-field she said that CCS!Sakura’s “Zettai Daijoubu Dayo” *trademark* really comforted her. So I think she wouldn’t have such worried expression after meeting CCS!Sakura. But we never know xD
LikeLike
I don’t mind hearing it again \o/ *going to be obnoxious about this foreverrrr*
But it’s not like CLAMP would show Sakura’s breasts
And I am so, so very glad for that |D;
Hm, good point! IDK I just thought it’d fit. And after all those panels of Yuuko grabbing sakura petals having significance, afterall, I’m suspicious of any similar panel.
LikeLike
And after all those panels of Yuuko grabbing sakura petals having significance, afterall, I’m suspicious of any similar panel.
And we SHOULD be! After all, Yuuko’s catch wasn’t just a normal catch xD
LikeLike
Baby syaoran is sooo cute!! But up to this point, I’m totally confuse about the story’s time line… what come first? (chicken or egg?? lol) Dont forget about Seishiro the papa Syaoran suppose to meet!
LikeLike
It’s difficult to put it in a timeline, but this is definitely the beginning of everything. After this, Jr. will be sent to Clow, turn back time, get cloned, and you know the rest ^^
LikeLike
And here comes the problem, this is a LOOP! So what? Yuuko never dies? Becasue baby Syao will meet her but she died when she granted live to his parents, and the fact that baby Syao’s father is a clone OF HIS OWN SON is too bizarre!!!! *_*;;;; And wait, the girl baby Syao will fall in love with is the one was used to create his mother!!! WTF!
LikeLike
Wait, Yuuko did die. This what we are seeing is the PAST of the entire time line. She is well alive running her shop while everything is happening.
They were reborn a few years earlier of everything that happened xD
and the fact that baby Syao’s father is a clone OF HIS OWN SON is too bizarre!!!! *_*;;;;
That, I have to agree xD It’s beyong bizarre. It’s a paradox that can’t be solved. You can’t tell which side is the tail and which side is the head or what comes first. It goes round and round xD
LikeLike
Yep, she died, but due to the ’roundness’ of this mess everything shall repeat again and again… and again… so look, this is even more bizarre, whith her death she grants the ‘means’ for her dying _again_ , her death starts the cicle again… this is even more paradoxal than the clone-papa-cloned-from son… I won’t continue or my brain shall loop itself XD
LikeLike
I don’t see it that way. This is a flashback, it’s not happening in real time, it ALREADY happened. The “present” is the battle with FWR. So Yuuko will not die again ^^”
They are just showing their story from their perspective, in which Yuuko was still alive.
LikeLike
ARe you sure this is not at the same time the ‘future’, what will happen to after that flashback is the manga so far, so speaking in terms of ‘time’, it will happen again, the chars say themselves, they are facing the moment to send kid Syao to Yuuko’s shop, and that just starts everything again…. it is a LOOP, until Clamp breaks it, if they can or want to.
LikeLike
Everything happened only once, it’s just a matter of what comes first.
I think I failed on trying to explain xD You’re free to think that of course, but from what I could understand Yuuko dies only once.
LikeLike
^___________^ Don’t worry, I don’t try to change your vision, but since we are talking about time and clones were sent to past… ok, can we agree at least that this is a time paradox? ;D
LikeLike
Oh no, please don’t get me wrong ^^ I don’t wanna try your vision either =D Yeah, we can surely agree that this is a time paradox.
LikeLike
I love the expressions of Hikaru, Fuu and Umi also ^^
And the theory is confirmed, in my opinion, Adult Syaoran is good-looking but looking serious all the time. It must be hard for the Parent to accept the fact of what’s waiting for their son (because they knew.
It is really an exchange of between adult and child Syaoran, I mean, we always see clone syaoran being more high-spirited than real syaoran (who is looking SO serious all the time) This time, it is adult Syaoran who is looking serious. at least, that’s what I think…
Ahh..and will this be the last plot twist? Or we would know how seishirou knows real.Syaoran’s father? Is it adult Syaoran or clone Syaoran?(If it’s really clone Syaoran, Sei-chan is quite powerful to know about what happens next..or before?)
I am hoping for a vol.29 but I don’t know if it can indeed before the end of the year considering the speed of their release recently.
LikeLike
But Syaoran is stubborn like that XD
Or we would know how seishirou knows real.Syaoran’s father?
That’s an easy one, they met in Clow when clone was still just a child, remember? ^^
I am hoping for a vol.29 but I don’t know if it can indeed before the end of the year considering the speed of their release recently.
Exactly. The list of Kodansha mangas to be released in August is out and Tsubasa is not there. Which means it’ll be released September onwards. Do we really have time for a 29 volume? We’ll see.
LikeLike
Actually, how did Seishirou know that the clone would end up as the son’s father when reborn, if the decision wasn’t yet taken at that time and even FWR with all his plannings had no idea? ^^;;
Seishirou shouldn’t have this kind of power (= see the Future so far ahead)
Could we push it all on “intuition”?
LikeLike
Yeah, I don’t think it has to do with seeing the future, out of all possibilities.
He knows Yuuko, she could have told him? xD Intuition is a good one, too, after all he is Seishirou.
LikeLike
>>That’s an easy one, they met in Clow when clone was still just a child, remember? ^^
That’s the thing. Is Sei-chan really know the clone will one day become the father of real syaoran? how can he know? he seems quite unrelated to the whole thing, he is busy chasing after the twins, isn’t he? Or perhaps we will know it in the future if Clamp(Ohkawa, to be exact XD) would like to tell us.
>>Exactly. The list of Kodansha mangas to be released in August is out and Tsubasa is not there. Which means it’ll be released September onwards. Do we really have time for a 29 volume? We’ll see.
It is not a problem if the tankobon will be released on 2010, the problem is can they finish all the chapters before end of 2009.(they may if they follow the suppose-to-be weekly schedule after their trip to Paris.)
LikeLike
We might never find out the reason of just how Seishirou knew. He met the clone when he was young, that makes me conclude that’s how he figured it out who was who. Maybe he was told by someone? Or maybe he just knew it ^^;
Yeah, I see what you mean by chapters ending in 2009 and tankoubon being released in 2010, it could be as well.
LikeLike
Adult|Syaoran looks…weird? Clamp failed in aging him, trying too hard can give the wrong result.
That’s only my POV though. Maybe my expectations were too high? ^^;
Ever since the CCS days, I’ve always wondered how Clamp would draw him as an adult…so yeah, after around 10 years of expectations, the truth is I think nothing might have been good enough in my eyes somehow aha~ XD XD
But still…I don’t think “Syaoran” was the type of character Clamp should have given a Touya/Fujitaka like face/built; his style is totally different.
But well, it’s needless to critic now, what is done is done
The chapter was really heartwarming in many senses; but as always, right after happily grinning while looking at the happy couple (and the baby!!!!!!!) in this chapter, my smile faded away when all the questions and contradictions coming from this came rushing in my mind, swirling and crashing against each others…
That aside, reborn|Sakura seems to be of pretty fragile constitution and sickly…that is one big difference with CCS|Sakura who is very sporty and healthy ^^
This might be the reason why CCS|Sakura helped her by giving away the wand? Reborn|Sakura was too weak by herself?
It also felt so strange hearing the son says “Well, Father got back from work yesterday!” Just what kind of job do you have Daddy|Syaoran??!! *I want to know!*
And again…Clamp got away without showing Daddy|Syaoran’s chinese parents in both CCS and TRC!! *ggrrooaarrrr!!!*
And, the most worrisome thing of all: father and son share the same existence?….also Watanuki and “Syaoran” are the same too…
So we got THREE people sharing the same existence! @____@
The name of the person who will get an “unhappy ending” is still hanging in the air, but if we consider that Logic is getting repaired and the twisting going back to normal + that “Syaoran” is the officially legitimate existence then…not only Watanuki but also Reborn|Syaoran are in danger of disappearing?
LikeLike
I really liked adult!Syaoran o.o
my smile faded away when all the questions and contradictions coming from this came rushing in my mind, swirling and crashing against each others…
Really? XD Could you name a few? Right now I only find weird that there were two Nadeshikos in the same world xD Of course, there were two Syaorans and Sakuras as well, but they have been reborn, so it’s understandable. But Nadeshiko too? xD
That aside, reborn|Sakura seems to be of pretty fragile constitution and sickly…that is one big difference with CCS|Sakura who is very sporty and healthy ^^
Yes, a friend of mine noticed that too and pointed it to me. I think it has to do with the “dream” and being worried for what’s coming ahead. She seems very powerful and confident in the battlefield.
Just what kind of job do you have Daddy|Syaoran??!! *I want to know!*
Me too! I don’t think it’s there for no reason. Maybe we won’t even see it in TRC at all, but there must be a reason behind it.
So we got THREE people sharing the same existence! @____@
You’re right…. I guess XDDD But I think it’s a different kind of existence. Wouldn’t Watanuki die if Jr. dies? They are the “same”, while in Jr. and his parent’s case, one was cloned after the other. I think it’s slightly different (as much crazy as it may sound XD).
The name of the person who will get an “unhappy” is still hanging in the air
I’ve been wondering that too. Yuuko died, but she’s certainly happy.
not only Watanuki but also Reborn|Syaoran are in danger?
If what you said about the three beings with the same existence is true, then you’re right xD That’s another reason for why Watanuki cannot disappear (and we just know he won’t, LOL)
LikeLike
>>That aside, reborn|Sakura seems to be of pretty fragile constitution and sickly…that is one big difference with CCS|Sakura who is very sporty and healthy ^^
I think it has also to do with her giving birth to Real Syaoran, in early pages, when mama.Sakura is holding baby.Syaoran, papa.Syaoran says that he is afraid of losing her, again? So maybe this is also one of the reason why she looks fragile? Of course, I think it has to do with knowing what lies ahead as well.
LikeLike
I think he means when he killed her soul, LOL
LikeLike
I mean the word ‘again’, so it means something may have happened during Sakura’s pregnancy or when she is giving birth to baby.Syaoran.
LikeLike
I see. But I really think he means the time when she died and he lost her ^^ He’s scared she dies “one more time”.
LikeLike
He also says “Just like back then”. I’m with ChibiYuuto, he probably means like when they were the clones and she was killed.
LikeLike
umm..maybe I have cause some misunderstanding…of course I know Syaoran is referring to killing her soul back in the dream world, however, ‘just like back then’ means there is something happen now that make Syaoran to be afarid that he will lose her again, and that’s what I mean by something may have happened during Sakura’s pregnancy or when she is giving birth to baby.Syaoran.
LikeLike
I was under the impression it was because the act of giving birth to a child in and of itself can be deadly. Particularly if they’re living in a world without the greatest medical care. Plus it looked like she gave birth right in her own bed so it probably is to show she only had a midwife at best. So it was probably relatively an old-fashioned “natural” birth…which, if the mother isn’t in the best physical condition or something goes wrong or any number of other things – it *can* result in the death of the mother, baby, or both.
So it didn’t surprise me at all that Syaoran was worried 🙂
LikeLike
Really? XD Could you name a few?
First thing first, the fact Past/Present/Future events are in a complete jam and definitely do not follow a chronological order ^^;;
It’s all fine and nice to say that since the World was twisted, it’s no wonder everything is a mess, but what will happen now that this twisting is being repaired?
Same thing with everything that seemed going against “Logic”, all the impossible things that were made possible by FWR plans: the past and the future of one same world exist at the same time (Clow Country and Acid Tokyo); someone who shouldn’t exist does (Watanuki), someone who should be dead is still with the Living (Yuuko); reincarnated persons who should be in the so called ‘future’ are also in the ‘past’ at the same time (SxS – when the Parents arrived in front of FWR and were fighting with FWR, Clone|Syaoran hadn’t taken the decision to be revived yet….we were looking at the past and future self of the same people, the pre-reborn and post-reborn); the son fathered himself (“Syaoran”) and is in love(?) with his own mother’s original self etc…
What are Son|Syaoran and princess|Sakura real names? Very “simple” question but actually quite important…because them being “Sakura” and “Syaoran” is actually quite important in the plot story, and I’m afraid it might be left unanswered, better then coming up with new names in the 3 last pages of the series, like: “oh well, know what? all this time my name really was *******”.
*and the whole fandom tear their hair out because they wanna know the answer, but Clamp wouldn’t reveal it even in their death beds XD*
I also wonder just how far will Parents|SxS take the whole rewinding thing? Will they rewind back Kurogane’s parents death for example?
Or is it really only exclusively limited to the journey, starting with their getting to Yuuko’s shop in volume 1?
But, logically, if Parents|SxS really want for the ‘Logic of the World’ to go back to ‘Normal’, then the rewinding should go as far as the exact moment Clow Reed provoked the twisting with his wish…And then the next question would be..
…how much will the past/present/future of the people involved with this whole mess change?
We were already told that rewinding Time is a taboo when “Syaoran” wished “once again”: what are the consequences SxS will have to pay for doing so again but also how much will the past/present/future of all the people concerned by this mess will be changed? (in the previous case, Nadeshiko disappeared, “Syaoran” became a kid, princess Sakura forgot the whole thing, Clow became King in place of Fujitaka who turned into an archeologist…)
And what with Watanuki in this whole mess? Yuuko said his parents sacrificed themselves for his sake…but what we’ve seen until now is that their going inside the tube was exclusively for their biological son “Syaoran” sake, after accomplishing his wish of rewinding Time and, of course, to stock power for the Final Battle… and just WHERE does the Time in which Parents|SxS were raising Watanuki is in all this?
From what we know, when their son said “once again” and Time was rewound (that was when Watanuki was created….), they themselves grew back to their younger days and paid the heavy price of being separated and ended up inside the tube at that right moment.
Just where are the years they were living with Watanuki? When did they change his appearance and name? When did they left him and how? Why was it registered in Watanuki’s mind that they were deceased? What for?
It was also said Watanuki gave away his memories for “Syaoran” sake as a price: how much did Watanuki knew about himself and the whole situation before his ‘amnesia’?
This is what comes to my mind at this right moment ^^
And about Mother|Sakura, I think she is really fragile for real, Dad|Syaoran looked really worried after her pregnancy, it seems like there might have been some complications somehow? But leaving that aside, even 7 years later, Son|Syaoran seemed to look concerned for his mother, as if it wasn’t strange for him and he was used to see her like that. At least, this is the feeling I got ^^;
LikeLike
First thing first, the fact Past/Present/Future events are in a complete jam and definitely do not follow a chronological order ^^;;
Really? I think the time line is finally showing itself.
all the impossible things that were made possible by FWR plans: the past and the future of one same world exist at the same time (Clow Country and Acid Tokyo); someone who shouldn’t exist does (Watanuki), someone who should be dead is still with the Living (Yuuko); reincarnated persons who should be in the so called ‘future’ are also in the ‘past’ at the same time (SxS – when the Parents arrived in front of FWR and were fighting with FWR, Clone|Syaoran hadn’t taken the decision to be revived yet….we were looking at the past and future self of the same people, the pre-reborn and post-reborn); the son fathered himself (“Syaoran”) and is in love(?) with his own mother’s original self etc…
This, I blame Tsubasa being a fantasy series, and CLAMP has taken that concept really serious XD You forgot to mention a girl splitting her soul from her body. LOL
But these are not plot holes caused by the revelation that the clones are the parents.
I’m curious about real!S+S’s real names too! I think it’ll be revealed.
I also wonder just how far will Parents|SxS take the whole rewinding thing? Will they rewind back Kurogane’s parents death for example?
I think they will rewind just about to the point before FWR screwed everything. I don’t think the rewinding will be as severe as saving Kurogane’s parents.
and just WHERE does the Time in which Parents|SxS were raising Watanuki is in all this?
From what we know, when their son said “once again” and Time was rewound (that was when Watanuki was created….), they themselves grew back to their younger days and paid the heavy price of being separated and ended up inside the tube at that right moment. Just where are the years they were living with Watanuki?
Wait wait wait ^^; that’s two different things. When Syaoran rewound time, EVERYONE’s time was rewound. That’s why Watanuki was created, to fill Syaoran’s place. And that is also why Nadeshiko and Fujitaka were affected.
BUT, when Syaoran and Sakura got “younger”, they only rewound their own times. They were the only ones affected.
They spent their 7 years with Watanuki and THEN they went to the tube.
LikeLike
And I was forgetting others things: about why both Yuuko and FWR insisted so much all along on “Syaoran” being Clow Reed blood relative (even though he is not) and also why was CCS|Sakura was randomly thrown in the middle of all this (apart from being fanservice that is :P), because there is really no *true* needs to show her handing down the Star Wand: Clamp could have made up whatever other thing to pay for “Syaoran”‘s travel or simply not say anything at all (like when they had Yuuko say to “Syaoran” his parents paid for his treatment -after he was trashed by FWR in his first travel to Clow- but Yuuko never precised what is it they paid with).
But with putting the Star wand under our noses, the whole Clow Reed thing and CCS|Sakura appearance, they seem to be FORCING CCS on TRC, what for? It’s useless in my eyes. Or seriously, Clamp, don’t go so far with fanservice!
LikeLike
/re-posts, then
why was CCS|Sakura was randomly thrown in the middle of all this
So that we’d think that the CCS ones were Real’s parents, at least for a while. Because if they hadn’t hinted towards that, then the fact that the clones would reincarnate and become the parents wouldn’t have even half the impact it does.
LikeLike
Re: /re-posts, then
Well, starting from the moment Yuuko said to the clones they would meet with their real selves again, most of the fandom had a pretty good idea who they were, even though it went against ‘Logic’ and gave everyone a big headache ^^;
So while I agree, I still wouldn’t really put it all on the ‘impact’ thing: Clamp worked too hard since chapter 01 of xxxHolic and for a long time in TRC too to make a connection with CCS for this one revelation.
This is what I feel about it at least, especially since they can’t go back on their words now: they will either not explain what the whole “clow reed blood relative” thing or…I don’t know ^^;;;
CR obviously returned to CCS and reincarnated himself in 2 people in CCS, and definitely died when he made the whole dividing thing. In TRC/Holic whole story since volume01, CR is considered as being long dead….
He gave away magic for Clone|Syaoran to be revived but that doesn’t makes Reborn|Syaoran his descendant just for this: CR magic was nothing but a price, especially if you take in consideration that very obviously FWR did not know that Clone|Syaoran would be reborn and opposes his plans, nor that CR paid for such a thing. Then how could FWR call him “CR blood relative” all along”?
To put it in one word: nonsense.
LikeLike
It didn’t give me a headache!
Maybe the reincarnated Syaoran is, still, a relative of Clow? Or maybe the magic really wasn’t just a price. And that’s how the connection is made. IDK, I think we might get more info on that, since FWR had asked “Why can he use Clow’s magic” and then we went to the Clones’ story.
And I do think it had some impact. Because we had the option of “CCS!SxS”, then nobody (at least back then when we first were given hints about them) really considered that the clones could be the parents. If we hadn’t had a false!clue, then it might’ve been even more obvious. And I’m sure you remember that only the spoilers for THIS chapter made people finally say “yeah, okay, they’re the reincarnated!clones”. People were still insisting it had to be them. S-so I’d say it did have some impact.
Then again, I’m not discarding that there could be some more involvement. I’m perfectly happy with how things are right now, but who knows, maybe there’re more reasons for the CCS involvement in the story, so far.
LikeLike
I think I would be satisfied with any explanation Clamp would grace us with, everything except plain silence or to discover it was pure marketing, aka showing off CCS hints just to attract CCS fans =__= TRC and Holic are already auto-sufficient by themselves without doing a cheap thing as getting another manga involved.
Actually, I think then more then the plot story or anything, this is what truly bothers me most: that everything would be for ‘business’ purposes. It would be a great disappointment ;___;
That aside, it would be be interesting to know how CCS|Sakura learned about her other self and decided to meet her in a Dream ^^
LikeLike
If it was for marketing purposes, they would’ve told us that the original! Sakura was involved from the very beginning.
Wouldn’t that just be her seeing the future?
LikeLike
I think we could yet see CCS!Sakura’s real importance. She gave the staff which served as price for sending Jr. to Clow. That is important enough.
But I do understand your question: why her? Why her staff is so important?
I think there could be more things that weren’t said yet. We don’t know why the staff was so important for Mama!Sakura (CCS!Sakura said so), we have yet to find that out.
LikeLike
We don’t know why the staff was so important for Mama!Sakura (CCS!Sakura said so), we have yet to find that out.
I’m still banking on it being important to Mama|Sakura because it was she needed to give it to Yuuko as a price.
Come to think of it, Yuuko may have asked for something else–maybe even Sakura’s memories of Syaoran again–so the staff could have served as an alternate form of payment.
LikeLike
YESSSS, I agree with you so much, for me, I LOVE all the twists happened in TRC. I feel so great when there were theories of time paradox, of course, I really thank jlarinda-san (and chibiyuuto-san) for the theory.
Back to the discussion, I personally believe that the reborn clone syaoran is a Clow Reed’s descendant/blood relative, consider he is also in the Li family in HK.
I also agree that the whole CCS thing in TRC is targeted to make us have a false thinking at first, to make impact when the truth is finally revealed. I personally think it is clever, it makes nobody doubt about the parent’s true identity before ch.221.
LikeLike
Please, no “-san” :D;; Just “Jlarinda” or “JL”.
I absolutely love them, as well. As much as I liked CCS!SxS as the parents, back when we thought they were (for me, that’d be right before the chapter where Mom!Sakura says they met in a dream; clarifying ’cause a lot of people kept thinking they still were the same after that), it was rather lame that the prologue, the final battle, even the replacement of the main chara, all was connected to another series’ main pairing. This way, CCS is making a cameo, and it’s the Clones, the ones we first knew, who’re involved in the prologue and the final battle and even in the replacement of the main chara, since Real is their son.
Agreed on Papa!Syaoran, I think that’s what it is. It’d fit, too, since he’s in Hong Kong.
LikeLike
I agree – I think there’s more to the CCS couple in this story than we’ve seen so far. We’ve only just touched on unravelling the clones’ stories, we’ll get to CCS’s story yet… This is what Clamp are good at – veeeery slowy, unravelling all the questions! xD
LikeLike
“Syaoran” is Sakura’s son, and Sakura is Clow’s daughter. So he is a Clow blood relative…
Though it’s not clear who the hell is the Clow from Clow.
LikeLike
It can’t be that, Syaoran says that “Clow Reed” is someone his father was a distant relative of.
… And the Clow from Clow is the same Clow Reed from CCS. It’s explained in the last couple of chapters.
LikeLike
Of course, you’re right… TRC is messing with my brain D:
LikeLike
“But still…I don’t think “Syaoran” was the type of character Clamp should have given a Touya/Fujitaka like face/built; his style is totally different.”
Um. Well, first of all Syaoran always kind of had the same structure as Touya, even in CCS. They make the same expressions and well… look at Teeny!Touya. They’re very, very similar.
But on top of that Syaoran being able to use Clow’s magic circle and whatnot – it follows what happens in CCS. Fujitaka, Eriol (and Touya, to an extent for being the son of Fujitaka) all bore a resemblance to Clow Reed. So if Syaoran is also some sort of descendant of Clow Reed, it makes sense that he’d have a resemblance too, even in adulthood. His style isn’t really all that different; and most characters (in any manga) will keep traces of their younger selves (which are clear; his features are clearly Syaoran), but still look pretty different from their adult selves. Just like people in real life. Their faces mature. if kid!Touya can grow into the facial structure of adult!Touya, so can Syaoran… since kid!Touya’s facial structure was essentially the same.
LikeLike
I like the Fujitaka/Eriol/Clow similarities that you brought up, I can see that’s how CLAMP wanted him to look like.
But what about Watanuki? XD He looks like Clow, but in his very own way xD
LikeLike
Well, it all falls pretty much under the same category. In all technicalities, Watanuki is R!Syao; it’s all the same genetics, which would explain why he has his own resemblance to Clow as well.
(Inserting logic in here is hilarious)
LikeLike
But still…I don’t think “Syaoran” was the type of character Clamp should have given a Touya/Fujitaka like face/built; his style is totally different.
I agree with you there. Throughout the last chapters (ever since the theory of CLone!Syaoran is R!Syaoran’s father) I’ve also wondered how Clone!Syaoran will look like as an adult…n now, I kind of expected a different image- guess it’s because I’m too attached to his teenage face XD
And again…Clamp got away without showing Daddy|Syaoran’s chinese parents in both CCS and TRC!! *ggrrooaarrrr!!!*
I was a bit upset with this as well….I guess that I’m overly curious about this matter as well as the Seishirou-catching-vampires matter~
-Honestly, I’m still in the middle of whether wanting Tsubasa to have vol.29 or not! *sigh*
LikeLike
I really hope there will be no 29. The numbers are perfect, 7 + 7 + 7 + 7, they can’t ruin that xD
LikeLike
I liked adult Syaoran too, but Sakura looks weird, i don’t know maybe the eyes xDD
Other than that the chapter is really beautiful.
Thank you chibiyuuto n_n
LikeLike
I like your new icon XDD
LikeLike
Yeah, i was thinking the same, adult!Sakura looks a little weird, maybe is forher eyes… o.o! And adult!Syaoran looks stunning! xD And definetly i loved the happy family moments, it was so nice, i wonder… maybe we’ll see some family moments os watanuki’s too? i want to see that! Just…watanuki deserves one moment of happiness! ;__;!
like always, thanks a lot for posting the chapter chibiyuuto-san!
LikeLike
Thank you so much.
LikeLike
No problem! Pretty icon!
LikeLike
“I wonder what Papa!Syaoran works with…”
Sakurazukamori inc the chinese branche 🙂
LikeLike
LOL! Maybe that’s how Seishirou knows for sure that he is the father of Jr xD
LikeLike
That thought crossed my mind as well XDDD
LikeLike
and now it hit me it’s not that funny….(oooo maybe this “flashback continues maybe we get to see Seishirou….although Clamp are the four daughters of satan so…
LikeLike
Just who are C!Shaoran’s “father and mother” that C!Sakura mentioned? oO
LikeLike
Mystery. I also wondered that too.
My friend told me in CCS Syaoran’s dad was dead, so this means that clone’s father is alive. I wonder if his mother is the same as shown in CCS movie 1 (not the SAME but same name and appearance, LOL)
(oooh, now I get why you asked it, you were still confused about the clone being parents-less xD)
LikeLike
So i’m going to voice my opinion because a lot of us are going insane trying to figure out this time frame knot. The way I see all of time flow is as follows
We’ll have Yuuko (because she’s the one that can rearainge everyone and send them places) sitting at a table (my she sounds like god) with all these images. The line of pictures is time. Each frame is a new situation…we’ll start where the little Shaoran (which was later cloned) was sent to her. “I have a wish due to my mother’s dream.” she inserts his image among the line of picutres next to a princess performing a purification. So from there on he is part of that princess’ line of images (the moments in time) when she gets cursed and he sent back to Yuuko he askes her to send him back. Times goes by in that world and in his with Yuuko and she replaces his image back with the princess. Fei Wong makes his offer and Fei Wong and Yuuko now travel all the way back down the line of images to where Shaoran first showed up placing a clone in his place and keeping the real Shaoran in another location. To replace the missing Shaoran in Yuuko’s line of events (because someone has to fill in the empty frame of the picture) Watanuki is now the boy that comes to Yuuko’s shop asking for a wish. It also means that there are several images overlapping at several points. What was once the image of Sharoan in Yuuko’s bed after fighting Yuuko’s magic pulling him back to his correct time, is Watanuki laying in Yuuko’s bed bandaged the same way after falling out of a window.
It also shows that when Yuuko took the Clones and gave them new life she went back really far to where she was still rearranging images and placed them in, because that way little Shaoran would be able to find the Witch’s shop.
I look at it this way because this way I can say there is one Yuuko and she may be working the story and die, but it also means that the time line is in her perspective. One solid existence, a line that gets additions to it that will change the following images.
LikeLike
I really hope you don’t get offended but I was a little confused with all those images xD
But we agree in one point, everything takes place in a single time line, just exposed in many different perspectives =)
LikeLike
If you’ve seen Haruhi Suzumiya they explain it better there because I consider it a similar concept.. I read what I wrote and went “i’m not sure anyone will follow but oh well.”
In short it’s Time is running in a straight line and will continue to Run even when Yuuko dies. Before she dies she did a bunch of stuff that kept sending people into existence back in time and what later on down the line would happen. Whenever there was an open space like By Shaoran (the son) when he went to Clow Country, Yuuko filled it with Watanuki so that what had already happened would only be altered slightly and time would not fall apart due to a blank space being made. Now Yuuko existed and lived at some point in time, but we aren’t there anymore, we are in the time after her death now, and in today’s chapter we are seeing something that has already happened in a time Before Yuuko’s death and even before the journey began for the Shaoran. Now things that come from these two will affect the time line and the baby we saw will go back farther in time to create the situation that exists in this chapter, but that does not mean that Yuuko never dies because time now moves for her, because she is now someone we can really integrate in the timeline rather than have her sit frozen beside it only interacting with it but never being in it.
did that make more seance?
LikeLike
Thank for the link!!
this chapter..made me feel ackward, such a huge difference from the last that made me scream in utter joy; But this chapter ….. hhmm
dunno, maybe because of the skip time, Sakura&Syaoran looking so damn ugly U_U, yeah that was it *sniff*
LikeLike
I’m not even going to try to figure out the whole paradox thing (the clone is the father of the original…wha? o_0), but it’s great to finally see Sakura and Syaoran as adults. XD
LikeLike
Syaoran is more handsome as an adult than he was as a child.
I too loved the MKR girls’ reaction! 😀
Sakura as an adult doesn’t work because of the haircut, IMO, it’s too… young for her. She looks like a child stuck in a grown woman’s body.
LikeLike
I can’t believe you understand all of this. I’ve been SO LOST. My brain just farts out everything. XD
LikeLike
I think it’s Sakura’s haircut that makes her look oddly young, though I wouldn’t say she isn’t pretty. Syaoran has a hairstyle that can evidently be worn throughout his life. ^^
And this happens after the events that are going to happen… thank goodness Yuuko just explains that time has compressed itself.
But what’s happening to the originals? Is Fei Wong Reed gone now?
Papa!Syaoran works at Piffle Princess. Everyone works for Piffle Princess (including its subdivision, Piffle Pizza) and its sister company, Green Drugstore.
LikeLike
Papa!Syaoran works at Piffle Princess. Everyone works for Piffle Princess (including its subdivision, Piffle Pizza) and its sister company, Green Drugstore.
HAHAHAHA gotta love that comment XD
LikeLike
So if…
Mama!Sakura = Clone Sakura of the real Sakura…
and…
Papa!Syaoran = Clone of his own son, R!Syaoran…
does this mean that C!Sakura is actually in some way married to her own son? o.O
Well, not much I can say to that except CLAMP is either a fan of ancient civilizations or has a whole new way of “keeping it in the family” or “true bloodlines” if you catch my drift…(they obviously have no qualms about the idea of incest, as the idea of it has been featured before…)
The only other idea I could think of is something similar along the lines of the Sailor Moon anime. CLAMP could have it set up that the clones’ souls would be reincarnated into the bodies of an existing alternate of CCS SxS pair about to be born (think alternate in the terms of how we saw it in Tsubasa for various characters/pairs like Arashi and Sorata). This of course would happen in the world where R!Syaoran originates (which at this point seems to be an alternate Tomoeda/Hong Kong/Tokyo). And like in Sailor Moon, this SxS pairing has retained the memories of their previous life, like the Moon Kingdom story.
Another similar thought comes to me from the anime series Yu Yu Hakusho with Shuichi Minamino and Yoko Kurama. Yoko Kurama’s soul was merged with Shuichi Minamino’s while still a fetus and although Shuichi Minamino did have a more human look than Yoko Kurama (unlike the reborn identities in Sailor Moon, which are exact replicas members of the Silver Mellinium time or now in this case, SxS), he still had Yoko Kurama’s memories, experiences and powers.
That’s the only other way I can really think of trying to get around this loop…sorry if it doesn’t make complete sense, but what theories do anymore?
LikeLike
does this mean that C!Sakura is actually in some way married to her own son? o.O
You could put it that way XD Even though they ARE completely different beings.
LikeLike
*raises hands* I surrender! ._.
so… what is PapaRan Ran gonna say? “My own son created me”? O.O;
truly i was shocked! your guess (or jlarinda-san) are really accurate! last time, when i read your guess earlier, i thought for a minute and said,”that COULD happen but how the…?” things like that! so what goes first? the chicken or the egg? XD
btw, who are the parents of Ran Ran? MamaSakura said that his parents thought that the baby(oh btw, i wanna see what he looks like… ;_;) looks a lot like his dad.
LikeLike
Re: *raises hands* I surrender! ._.
When the clones were reborn into the world, I assume they were born to parents. I don’t think they just spontaneously incarnated or were discovered under cabbage leaves. My guess is that they were born to random couples that happened to be in the right place at the right time. It would be weird though, having retained their memories, growing up they would be like child prodigies because they would already know so much. Could you imagine being in an infant’s or toddler’s body, knowing all that you know right now? Bizarre.
LikeLike
Re: *raises hands* I surrender! ._.
(CCS spoiler alert!)
remember that Yukito was created because of Yue? his “grandparents” found him and raised him. so, i wonder how they found him?
so the parents of PapaRan Ran might be the same method? same with MamaSakura? maybe. =/
>Could you imagine being in an infant’s or toddler’s body, knowing all that you know right now? Bizarre.
…wow… very bizarre. (Sounds cool though XD)
LikeLike
I really didn’t expect this kind of chapter from CLAMP, I really don’t get whats going on….. roflmao I need some clarification now ;_;
LikeLike
OMFG THE THEORY TURNED OUT TO BE RIGHT!!!!!!
I ADORED THIS CHAPTER!!
– I Loved their adult forms…they both look GORGEOUS!
– Baby Shaoran Jr. is… *____* pure love…
– Shaoran and Sakura being all sweet and affectionate (FINALLY!!) just takes my breath away ;___; It’s Sooooo Beautiful!!!
– and the fact that We Are finally looking at Watanuki’s mommy and daddy… is just…well.. ADORABLE!!!! ;___;
I love this chapter…. I love CLAMP…. I love Watanuki…. I love all forms of Sakura and Shaoran… I love Shaoran Jr….. what the hell I love Them ALL!!! *_______*
LikeLike
@_@’ crazy with tsubasa
My heart not feeling OK, I’m afraid that clamp will repeat the chapter again? Have you remember that his father give the sword to his son? then jr syaoran travel again! erggh… so bored. Whatever! Repeat and repeat! and create another syaoran. WTF @_@’?
LikeLike
Thanks! I’m reading chapitre 223 now!
LikeLike
Chibiyuuto, I read in somewhere that xxxholic 183 will change of date to 7/6/09 T_T please you must say that it is wrong.
LikeLike
Yes, unfortunately it’s been postponed to July 6 =_=
LikeLike
omg… I just read the chapter. I know I love clamp’s plot twists, but they’ve got to draw the line somewhere!!!! :grumble grumble:
LikeLike
Now it all make sense but, gosh, do they really needed to twist this so BADLY!?
LikeLike
Wow, Papa!Syaoran and Mama!Sakura sure make one attractive married couple.
And that is as far as I’ll comment on this chapter, thinking too much about time paradoxes and what not breaks my brain
LikeLike
OMG!!!!! Xiao-Lang looks so handsome!!!!…. this chapters are geting so good…. maybe mama Sakura look the dream and hade the message of CCS Sakura, and I think this part is when papa Xiao-Lang gave the sword to real Xiao-Lang in chapter 192???? (Is the same clothes and everything!!!)
LikeLike
Thanks for letting us know the chapter was out! ^^
Well, I pretty much agree with the rest of you, I also always wondered how they would like adults, and I think Syaoran looked older (facial-wise) than Sakura – maybe it’s the hairstyle afterall XD Now we got this straightened out at least,(that they are the parents) though it’s rather confusing still. One of my cousins asked me once what’s going on in Tsubasa (he only knows the basic story) and I didn’t even try to tell him to be honest, it’s way too much to try to explain.. O.o and even if I had tried, I’m pretty certain that he wouldn’t understand a thing XD
Anyway – There’s only one thing I miss regarding this chapter, a kiss between the two! It’s honestly clamps weak spot, they avoid kisses all the time, and if two people do kiss – they hide it in some way. I mean hugs are great and loving, but these two are a canon couple to say the least and now they’re married and have a son as well, a small kiss wouldn’t hurt XD Maybe it Mokona who doesn’t like drawing them, what do I know.
LikeLike
Loved that chapter.
And I can’t think of anything more than has already been said..
Next release on July 8?! So far awayy… But at least a reread of this chapter will make this fan happy =D.
As to the question of having two of the same person, maybe it doesn’t count because they’re not so much clones are reincarnated clones..
Argh I wanna see the epic battle again..
LikeLike
ok
I think CLAMP is going back to their old style,I like their decision.
LikeLike
WHAT ABOUT FAI AND KUROGANE?!?!
ok, i think the love mess between syoran and sakura is sweet, but i want to know what happened to fai and kurogane? clamp brought yuuko in and make everything all complicated, but in the middle of the epic battle, fai and kurogane are still there? maybe? i want clamp to show what happend to them! or is it because they made it a never ending time loop sotry, that nothing happened?
sigh, why must you tourchure me clamp, why?
LikeLike
Anyone have a scan of the page showing the pictures of the CLAMP Tekken costume that was in the same issue of Shounen Magazine?
LikeLike
Also, don’t you mean xxxHoLic volume 15 in the main post?
LikeLike
Yes! I’ve fixed it, thanks xD
Answering your question, I haven’t found any scans of Tekken 6 from Shonen Magazine yet =_=
LikeLike